谒师所

not deny them tomorrow. As a grandfather, it is my right and my privilege and I shall exercise that. Criticize me for that, I am very grateful to you.

明天我也不会否认他们。作为祖父，这是我的权利，也是我的殊荣，我会行使它。你们为此批评我，我非常感激你们。

If we are not willing to suffer and we are not going this time to India... Look at this situation, we are spending half a million dollar just Yatra fund. It will cost us exactly half million and we are going to stay there ten only days, that's it, not eleventh day. What we are going to achieve in this? Just to remind them that we are with them, just to love them that they belong to us and we belong to them. If it is going to be ever that there is a Punjabi Sikh and African Sikh and Indian Sikh and American Sikh and all this will continue, then Sikh Dharma has lost its grounds.

如果我们不愿意受苦，这次我们就不去印度……看看这个局面，我们光朝圣基金就花五十万美元。正好要花五十万，我们在那儿只待十天，就十天，不是十一天。我们能得到什么？只是提醒他们，我们和他们在一起；只是去爱他们，让他们知道他们属于我们，我们属于他们。如果将来永远是旁遮普锡克、非洲锡克、印度锡克、美国锡克这样分下去，那锡克正法就失去根基了。

'Ek Pita Ekas Ke Hum Barg, Tu Mera Guru Hayi. '

「Ek Pita Ekas Ke Hum Barg, Tu Mera Guru Hayi。」

That is the teaching, there is a one father, we are all His children, and that Guru is the guide and guidance for all of us. It is the quality that will matter, not the quantity.

这就是教导：只有一个父亲，我们都是他的孩子，而那位古茹是我们所有人的向导和指引。重要的是品质，不是数量。

is a one father, we are all His children, and that Guru is the guide and guidance for all of us. It is the quality that will matter, not the quantity.

只有一个父亲，我们都是他的孩子，而那位古茹是我们所有人的向导和指引。重要的是品质，不是数量。

Today I understand there was a marriage here. Well, somebody came to Guru Ram Das ashram and took a shelter here and wanted to be a Sikh of the Guru and there is no, no, nothing more beautiful than this privilege. That's the privilege you want to have.

今天我知道这里有一场婚礼。有人来到 Guru Ram Das 灵修社区，在这里得到庇护，想成为古茹的锡克。没有，没有比这更美的殊荣了。这才是你该拥有的殊荣。

And there are people we wanted them to go, we are going about sixty, seventy people and my policy is, you will be all open to stay at Guru Ram Das, that's our house. We have no Dera, we have only Phera. We have no place, we have only place house of Guru Ram Das. We could have bought anything we wanted to and we could have made anything we wanted to, we never did that only with the idea because whether we are good or bad, we will keep Guru Ram Das house as our house.

有些人我们想让他们去，我们大概去六十、七十人，我的政策是：你们都可以住在 Guru Ram Das，那是我们的家。我们没有 Dera，我们只有 Phera。我们没有别的地方，我们只有 Guru Ram Das 的家。我们本可以买任何想买的东西，本可以建任何想建的东西，我们从来没这么做，只因为一个想法：不管我们好还是坏，我们都把 Guru Ram Das 的家当作我们自己的家。

made anything we wanted to, we never did that only with the idea because whether we are good or bad, we will keep Guru Ram Das house as our house.

我们想做什么就做什么，我们从来不是只凭一个想法去做，因为不管我们是好是坏，我们都会把 Guru Ram Das 的家当作我们自己的家。

It is not that we cannot stay in five star hotel and live wherever we want, we are very rich, that's we know, there is no need of showing it. And one dollar buys thirty rupees, that's not the problem either, but we shall stay at Nanak Nivas. And we shall wash Prakarma and we shall clean Prakarma, we shall be with Guru. It's our way. It's our way to explain our love. It is the way.

并不是我们不能住五星级酒店、不能想住哪儿就住哪儿，我们很富有，这我们知道，没必要炫耀。一美元能换三十卢比，这也不是问题，但我们要住在 Nanak Nivas。我们要清洗 Prakarma，我们要打扫 Prakarma，我们要和 Guru 在一起。这是我们的方式。这是我们表达爱的方式。这就是方式。

I also know that people who live in Amritsar do not go to the Gurdwara. I know also people who work in SGPC office do not go to Harimandir Sahib. It is not that I am not aware of, I have not forgotten anything, don't remind me again and again and again. That's not I am asking. But I am asking you one thing, why do you forget one line of the Japji,

我也知道，住在阿姆利则的人不去谒师所。我也知道，在 SGPC 办公室工作的人不去金庙。并不是我不知道，我什么都没忘，别一遍又一遍地提醒我。我不是在问这个。我只问你们一件事，你们为什么忘了 Japji 里的一句话，

'Karmee Apo Apnee Ke Nerai Ke Dhoor. '

「Karmee Apo Apnee Ke Nerai Ke Dhoor。」

'Your action will decide whether you are near to God or you are away from God. '

「你的行动会决定你是靠近神，还是远离神。」

Your action will decide whether you are near to the Guru or away from the Guru. Faith moves the mountain otherwise stones are heavy.

你的行动会决定你是靠近古茹，还是远离古茹。信念能移山，否则石头就是沉重的。

away from God. '

远离神。」

Your action will decide whether you are near to the Guru or away from the Guru. Faith moves the mountain otherwise stones are heavy.

你的行动会决定你是靠近古茹，还是远离古茹。信念能移山，否则石头就是沉重的。

Children have been sent to India to keep the spirit of the Gurus alive and in gratitude that we are Sikhs because we had that in gratitude from the Guru's house. When we have no place of shelter we took shelter in Amritsar and that's what we did and we did it extempore and everything is now according to the schedule and I'll invite you all through this people in Espanola who are listening, people all over will listen this what I am saying, I invite everybody, because it is my last mile and I have done my job, now it is a responsibility for you to carry on. Dharma shall continue. Nine hundred sixty million we shall be; all western. Try to handle it.

孩子们被送到印度，是为了让古茹们的精神活着，也是出于感恩——我们是锡克教徒，因为这份感恩来自古茹的家。当我们无处栖身时，我们在阿姆利则找到了栖身之处，我们就是这么做的，而且是即兴做的，现在一切都按计划进行。我要通过这些人邀请你们所有人，在 Espanola 正在听的人，各地都会听到我现在说的话，我邀请每一个人，因为这是我最后的一程，我已经完成了我的工作，现在继续下去是你们的责任。正法会延续下去。我们会达到九亿六千万；全是西方人。试着去应对吧。

my job, now it is a responsibility for you to carry on. Dharma shall continue. Nine hundred sixty million we shall be; all western. Try to handle it.

我的工作，现在继续下去是你们的责任。正法会延续下去。我们会达到九亿六千万；全是西方人。试着去应对吧。

I went to Mexico, five hundred people showed up. I was in Acapulco, hundred fifty people were there. There is a list of hundred fifty some people to be initiated into Sikh Dharma. It is happening, it is not gone, it is not a matter of tomorrow or yesterday, it's a day, everyday when Guru's miracle will prevail. It is not personal, Zaat Jamat Ki Baat Nahi Hai. It is not a matter of personal and that of a body of the person, it is the Karamat, it's the miracle of Guru Ram Das which prevails, shall continue to prevail and should prevail and we should let it happen.

我去了墨西哥，来了五百人。我在阿卡普尔科的时候，那里有一百五十人。有一份大约一百五十人的名单，要接受锡克正法（Sikh Dharma）的点化。这事正在发生，它没有过去，不是明天或昨天的事，它是每一天，古茹的奇迹都会显现。这不是个人的事，Zaat Jamat Ki Baat Nahi Hai。这不是个人、不是某个人身体的事，它是Karamat，是Guru Ram Das的奇迹在显现，会继续显现，也应该显现，我们应该让它发生。

person, it is the Karamat, it's the miracle of Guru Ram Das which prevails, shall continue to prevail and should prevail and we should let it happen.

个人的事，它是Karamat，是Guru Ram Das的奇迹在显现，会继续显现，也应该显现，我们应该让它发生。

Imagine when we were going to go our idea was to go this World Sammelan, the world conference, they couldn't handle it. Now they are having a mini conference, they are having no, actually practically they do not know what they are having, that's, that's true, but we are going, we are going to house of Guru Ram Das, that's enough for us and that's all practical and what we'll get out of Guru Ram Das is our direct relationship. It is not that we need somebody in between to do some agentship for us, we are direct with our Guru, Guru is direct with us and we enjoy it. That's the way we are and that's where the Age of Aquarius is all about. And years and years of we have spent.

想想看，我们本来打算去参加这个世界大会，世界会议，他们办不了。现在他们在办一个小型会议，他们其实根本不知道自己在办什么，这是真的，但我们要去，我们要去Guru Ram Das的家，这对我们就够了，这就是全部的实际，我们从Guru Ram Das那里得到的是我们直接的关系。不是我们需要中间有人替我们做代理，我们直接与我们的古茹相连，古茹直接与我们相连，我们享受它。我们就是这样，这就是水瓶时代（Age of Aquarius）的全部意义。我们花了年复一年的时间。

Guru is direct with us and we enjoy it. That's the way we are and that's where the Age of Aquarius is all about. And years and years of we have spent.

古茹直接与我们相连，我们享受它。我们就是这样，这就是水瓶时代的全部意义。我们花了年复一年的时间。

I cannot take Amritsar from Amritsar and put it in Switzerland, I can't do that. It is true that we'll build Guru Ram Das Puri at nine hundred sixty million dollar as first basement, that's true, that is true it will be one of the most beautiful temple in the world that never a nation will ever be in a position to match up to it. That I can understand, but still Harimandir will remain Harimandir, doesn't matter how great we become and how best we can be. And that is positive. That is sure. And we'll keep it that way.

我不能把阿姆利则从阿姆利则搬走，放到瑞士去，我做不到。没错，我们会以九亿六千万美元建Guru Ram Das Puri作为第一层地基，这是真的，它会成为世界上最美的庙宇之一，任何国家都永远无法与之相比。这我能理解，但金庙（Harimandir）仍然是金庙，不管我们变得多伟大、多优秀。这是正向的。这是确定的。我们会保持这样。

You know, the land of Guru Ram Das Puri is one of the best land in the world, we all very proud and God has given us, and it is about one hundred and eighty acres and we are going to build one of the most beautiful temple of steel there that ever world will look at it, it will be one of the miracle, but with all what we get there we still will owe to Harimandir, we'll never forget that.

你知道，Guru Ram Das Puri那片土地是世上最好的土地之一，我们都很自豪，是神赐给我们的，大约有一百八十英亩，我们要在那里建一座世界上最美的钢铁庙宇，全世界都会看着它，它会是一个奇迹，但不管我们在那里得到什么，我们仍然要归功于金庙，我们永远不会忘记这一点。

ever world will look at it, it will be one of the miracle, but with all what we get there we still will owe to Harimandir, we'll never forget that.

无论世界怎么看它，它都会是一个奇迹，但有了我们在那里得到的一切，我们仍然要感恩 Harimandir，我们永远不会忘记这一点。

That's what I was saying the dust in the street of Harimandir is much better than all the nectar the angels can give me, the jewels they can shower me and all the hugs and kisses God gave me is no better than the mosquitoes which bite me while I sleep a restless night in the university of Guru Nanak in Amritsar.

这就是我刚才说的，Harimandir 街道上的尘土，比天使能给我的所有甘露都好，比他们能洒向我的珠宝都好，而神给我的所有拥抱和亲吻，都比不上我在阿姆利则 Guru Nanak 大学里辗转难眠时咬我的那些蚊子。

I wrote a beautiful poem, I don't mind expressing myself that way, because it is thinking too little too small and that is what practical. As we are Sikhs we have a daily work. Sikh has a quantum psychology of neurological progression and success. That is what the Sikh Dharma is about. Sikh Dharma is to understand, develop the basic scientific Sikh head, because we gave, we have to give our head to the Guru, we have to offer this to the Guru, so it should be worthy of it, it should be well good so that we can offer. You don't offer something to the Guru which is not good. So the brain works with the neurons and neurological progression of your head should be cleared every day.

我写了一首美丽的诗，我不介意用这种方式表达自己，因为那是想得太少太小，而那才是实际的。作为锡克教徒，我们每天都有功课。锡克教徒有一套神经进展和成功的量子心理学。这就是锡克正法的意义所在。锡克正法就是要理解、发展基本的科学性锡克头脑，因为我们献出了，我们必须把头献给古茹，我们必须把这献给古茹，所以它应该配得上，它应该足够好，这样我们才能献上。你不会把不好的东西献给古茹。所以大脑与神经元一起运作，你头部的神经进展应该每天都被清理。

something to the Guru which is not good. So the brain works with the neurons and neurological progression of your head should be cleared every day.

把不好的东西献给古茹。所以大脑与神经元一起运作，你头部的神经进展应该每天都被清理。

That's why we have to rise in the ambrosial hour and do what we have to do, but basically there are very simple things to do that each day your day should be better than yesterday. Each day your day should be better than yesterday because yesterday you are successfully let go and today is Guru's day and tomorrow is the day of your offering. Each day your relationship should be brighter than yesterday, because that is the way you serve and that's the way you prevail and that's the way you let Guru's words be understood by everybody; by your presence.

这就是为什么我们必须在甘露时刻起身，做我们必须做的事，但基本上要做的事情非常简单，就是让你的每一天都比昨天更好。你的每一天都应该比昨天更好，因为昨天你已经成功地放下，今天是古茹的日子，明天是你献上的日子。你的关系每天都应该比昨天更明亮，因为那是你服务的方式，那是你胜出的方式，那是你让每个人都理解古茹话语的方式——通过你的临在。

If your presence doesn't work, then all the world around you will never work and each day you should be beautiful than yesterday, because Har Jan Har Do Ek, and you and Guru and God is just one, that's what Ek Ong Kar means.

如果你的临在不起作用，那么你周围整个世界就永远不会起作用，而且你每天都应该比昨天更美丽，因为 Har Jan Har Do Ek，你、古茹和神就是一，这就是 Ek Ong Kar 的意思。

and each day you should be beautiful than yesterday, because Har Jan Har Do Ek, and you and Guru and God is just one, that's what Ek Ong Kar means.

而且你每天都应该比昨天更美丽，因为 Har Jan Har Do Ek，你、古茹和神就是一，这就是 Ek Ong Kar 的意思。

In this classical situation Guru Gobind Singh gave us the body of the Khalsa. A well crowned self-imperial personality which has no duality, that's the body of the Sikh. A Sikh not only he not faces the calamity, he loves it. Challenge and calamity and misery and torture and all that was tried at Sikhs as a nation from last five hundred twenty five over years and everything at... This is one place where humanity has stood, walked tall and proven that nothing works negative, because we are so positive and enriched by Guru's words. And majority of the religion they just want heaven and hell, that's their decisive force and we don't even care.

在这个经典的情境里，Guru Gobind Singh 给了我们卡尔萨的形体。一个加冕完备、自我主宰的人格，没有二元对立，那就是锡克人的形体。锡克人不只不逃避灾难，他还热爱灾难。挑战、灾难、苦难、折磨，以及过去五百二十五年多来作为一个民族加在锡克人身上的一切，还有……这是人类站立起来、昂首行走的一个地方，证明了负面的一切都不起作用，因为我们如此正向，被古茹的话语所充实。而大多数宗教只想要天堂和地狱，那是他们的决定力量，我们根本不在乎。

and enriched by Guru's words. And majority of the religion they just want heaven and hell, that's their decisive force and we don't even care.

被古茹的话语所充实。而大多数宗教只想要天堂和地狱，那是他们的决定力量，我们根本不在乎。

Our happiness is in our ecstasy. That is Sikh formula of life that I am expanded enough, I am wide enough, I am great enough, that I shall never let down my Guru. Sikh does not live for himself, himself is not great requirement. Few things can make any person survive, Sikh is not escapist, he doesn't want to go the mountain and be there and take care of his food and hide in the caves, that's not a Sikh, Sikh lives a life full and very gracious, very dominantly shining, very imperial, very effective, because this is what is all about. Because every breath of life Sikh does not represent himself, he represents the Guru.

我们的快乐在于我们的狂喜。这就是锡克人的生命公式：我足够扩展，我足够宽广，我足够伟大，我永远不会让我的古茹失望。锡克人不为自己而活，自己并不是什么大要求。几样东西就能让任何人活下去，锡克人不是逃避者，他不想跑到山上去待着，照顾自己的食物，躲在洞穴里，那不是锡克人，锡克人过着圆满而非常优雅的生活，非常主导地闪耀，非常帝王般，非常有效，因为这就是全部的意义。因为锡克人的每一次生命呼吸，他都不是在代表自己，他代表的是古茹。

The beauty of having a Shabad Guru is that Shabad is in the heart of the Sikh and his head is carrying the pride of the fact that he represents the Guru. To anybody to everybody his smile, his love, his words, his service, his attitude, is guarantee of this fact that he belongs to the great Guru. This logic and psychology of reasons and neurosis, that is a poor man's job.

拥有圣音古茹的美妙之处在于，圣音就在锡克人的心里，而他的头脑承载着这份自豪：他代表古茹。对任何人、对每个人，他的微笑、他的爱、他的话语、他的服务、他的态度，都是这个事实的保证：他属于伟大的古茹。这套逻辑，这套讲理由和神经症的心理，那是穷人的活计。

attitude, is guarantee of this fact that he belongs to the great Guru. This logic and psychology of reasons and neurosis, that is a poor man's job.

他的态度，都是这个事实的保证：他属于伟大的古茹。这套逻辑，这套讲理由和神经症的心理，那是穷人的活计。

If it is true that wealth is great, that's, I presume your theory, then let me know why a man with a loincloth or man who is naked is being worshipped by the whole world and everybody goes there to bow to him? He is naked physically, but spiritually that person is enriched, his radiance is great. Sikh on the other hand does this as a service comes down to the world, comes down to the living world and lives the life of a householder in utmost grace, in utmost dignity. Sikh has no negativity, no duality.

如果财富是伟大的，这是真的——我猜这是你的理论——那就让我知道，为什么一个只缠着腰布的人，或者一个赤身裸体的人，会被全世界崇拜，每个人都去那里向他顶礼？他肉体上是赤裸的，但灵性上那个人是充实的，他的光芒是伟大的。而锡克人反过来，把这一切当作服务，降临到世间，降临到活生生的世界，以最大的优雅、最大的尊严过着 householder 的生活。锡克人没有负面，没有二元对立。

Negativity will only come when you are negative and positive and you have duality, but you have a personality of a Sikh, then there is no duality, then everything is super positive; because it's a dedicated thing.

负面只会在你既负面又正面、处在二元对立里的时候出现，但如果你有锡克人的人格，那就没有二元对立，那时一切都是超级正向的；因为这是一件全然投入的事。

It was very funny, I was there in Mexico and somebody said that, "What should we do with Dasvandh? "

很有意思，我当时在墨西哥，有人说：「Dasvandh 我们该怎么处理？」

super positive; because it's a dedicated thing.

超级正向；因为这是一件全然投入的事。

It was very funny, I was there in Mexico and somebody said that, "What should we do with Dasvandh? "

很有意思，我当时在墨西哥，有人说：「Dasvandh 我们该怎么处理？」

I said, "First of all I cannot tell you what you should do with Dasvandh. Dasvandh doesn't belong to you or to me and we can't do anything with it. Dasvandh belongs to the Guru. And let it go to the account where it serves the Guru. "

我说：「首先，我不能告诉你 Dasvandh 该怎么处理。Dasvandh 不属于你，也不属于我，我们没法对它做什么。Dasvandh 属于古茹。就让它去到那个能服务古茹的账上。」

"Can you decide it? "

「你能决定吗？」

I said, "No, I am not competent. "

我说：「不，我没有这个资格。」

Nobody is competent, I am not even competent to know where my Dasvandh goes, all I, mine, everything goes, but at least I know Dasvandh definitely goes and it goes for the purpose of the Guru. That is not the matter of discussion, you do not give Dasvandh with condition, you give Dasvandh to fulfill your soul. That's what Dasvandh is about. Guru you gave me and one tenth I offer back to thy glory. And nine parts of it and myself I shall carry thy glory. And that's what the life of the Sikh is.

谁都没有这个资格，我连知道我的 Dasvandh 去了哪里都不够格，我的一切、我的所有，全都交出去，但至少我知道 Dasvandh 一定会出去，而且是为古茹的目的而去。这不是可以讨论的事，你给 Dasvandh 不带条件，你给 Dasvandh 是为了圆满你的灵魂/真我。Dasvandh 就是这个意思。古茹，你给了我，我把十分之一献回给你的荣耀。剩下的九分，连同我自己，我要承载你的荣耀。这就是锡克人的一生。

you gave me and one tenth I offer back to thy glory. And nine parts of it and myself I shall carry thy glory. And that's what the life of the Sikh is.

你给了我，我把十分之一献回给你的荣耀。剩下的九分，连同我自己，我要承载你的荣耀。这就是锡克人的一生。

Why in our homes we fly the flags of the Dharma? Just for the glory of the Dharma. Why we live so clean and so good? For the effectiveness of the Dharma. Why we are so smiling and so positive? Because we have to understand Guru is within us, we have to face it. We are not following a religion to keep on tracing God. We are not born as human to become spiritual, we are spiritual being to live as human. Therefore, we have to show that we are saints and soldiers. We are the saint and soldier at the same time. Our discipline of a soldier and our life as a saint is most combined life.

为什么我们在家里挂起正法的旗帜？只为正法的荣耀。为什么我们活得这么干净、这么好？为了正法的效力。为什么我们这么爱笑、这么正向？因为我们必须明白古茹就在我们之内，我们必须面对它。我们信奉一个宗教，不是为了不停地追寻神。我们生而为人，不是为了变得有灵性，我们是灵性的存在，来过人的生活。所以，我们必须展现我们是圣徒也是战士。我们同时是圣徒和战士。我们作为战士的纪律，和我们作为圣徒的生活，是最合一的生活。

Whereas we are rejoicing this now and our expansion is everywhere and Guru words come true,

而我们现在正为此欢庆，我们的扩展遍及各处，古茹的话应验了，

'Khwar Hoye Sab Milengey Bache Sharan Jo Hoye. '

「Khwar Hoye Sab Milengey Bache Sharan Jo Hoye。」

'All those who have gone astray,

「所有走入歧途的人，

after eating the dust they shall come back to the base. '

吃够了尘土，终会回到根基。」

true,

真的，

'Khwar Hoye Sab Milengey Bache Sharan Jo Hoye. '

「Khwar Hoye Sab Milengey Bache Sharan Jo Hoye。」

'All those who have gone astray,

「所有走入歧途的人，

after eating the dust they shall come back to the base. '

吃够了尘土，终会回到根基。」

It is not going to be wrong. I, I, I can tell you something very positively, having emotions and commotions and neurosis and feeling and being psychotic and being neurotic and being doctor and being engineer and being yogi and being this sahib and that sahib and all that stuff is fine for your identity if you can satisfy, but one thing basically you must not miss – if you cannot deliver yourself on the time of challenge you have already destroyed yourself. With all paraphernalia and qualification, can you represent the Guru? Can you represent the words of the Guru? And can you carry it today, tomorrow and forever? That is the path of the Khalsa.

它不会错的。我，我，我可以非常肯定地告诉你，有情绪、有骚动、有神经质、有感受、精神失常、神经兮兮、当医生、当工程师、当瑜伽士、当这个先生那个先生，所有这些东西，只要你能满足，对你的身份来说都没问题，但有一件事你绝对不能漏掉——如果在挑战来临的时刻你交不出自己，你就已经毁了自己。带着所有这些行头和资历，你能代表古茹吗？你能代表古茹的话吗？你能今天、明天、永远把它扛起来吗？那就是卡尔萨的道路。

can you represent the Guru? Can you represent the words of the Guru? And can you carry it today, tomorrow and forever? That is the path of the Khalsa.

你能代表古茹吗？你能代表古茹的话吗？你能今天、明天、永远把它扛起来吗？那就是卡尔萨的道路。

Twenty five years ago we were handful, we are not handful anymore, we are a full-fledged sovereign spiritual Khalsa nation, we are not handful. And there is no question now that what will happen after A dies or B dies or C dies, Dharma will live and we'll continue working our best, participating our best. And those who learn Gurbani by heart must practice it by hands. Otherwise the story will be, I know of a one gentleman, that's more shocking thing and I'll say all the time, I know one person who knows Siri Guru Granth by heart, sings all the time and does everything, but when it come to decide whether person has to go to north and south it takes three hours.

25 年前我们只有寥寥几个人，现在我们不再是寥寥几个人了，我们是一个完整的主权灵性卡尔萨民族，我们不再是寥寥几个人。现在也不存在这个问题：A 死了或 B 死了或 C 死了之后会怎样，正法会活下去，我们会继续尽我们最大的努力，尽我们最大的参与。而那些把 Gurbani 背下来的人，必须用手去实践它。否则故事就会是这样，我知道一位先生，这是更令人震惊的事，我总说，我知道一个人，他把《圣格兰特经》背得滚瓜烂熟，整天唱，什么都做，但到了要决定一个人该去北边还是南边的时候，他要花 3 个小时。

That kind of character is not right.

那种品格是不对的。

Sikh decision should be very accurate, very effective, impact should be very straight and very simple. And if you do not know how to live as a Sikh, please take the Asa Divar, code of conduct is very well written there; and the entire wisdom which a Sikh needs is right there, how to be in every relationship.

锡克人的决定应该非常准确、非常有效，影响应该非常直接、非常简单。如果你不知道怎么作为一个锡克人生活，请拿《阿萨迪·瓦尔》（Asa di Var），行为守则在那里写得非常清楚；一个锡克人需要的全部智慧就在那里，怎么处在每一种关系里。

the Asa Divar, code of conduct is very well written there; and the entire wisdom which a Sikh needs is right there, how to be in every relationship.

《阿萨迪·瓦尔》（Asa di Var），行为守则在那里写得非常清楚；一个锡克人需要的全部智慧就在那里，怎么处在每一种关系里。

So I will remind those who have forgotten to act, to transliterate, read the Asa Divar word by word and understand what Guru's commands are and follow it. It will give us a very comprehensive view the life is dictated why it was. And Guru has given us a very popular instructions, the purpose of all this instruction was that Sikh is not supposed to fail against every odd and there is no promise that life will not have odds.

所以我要提醒那些忘了去行动的人，去逐字转写、阅读《阿萨迪·瓦尔》（Asa di Var），理解古茹的命令是什么，然后照着做。它会给我们一个非常全面的视角，看清人生为什么被这样规定。古茹给了我们非常通俗的指示，所有这些指示的目的就是：锡克人不该在每一个逆境面前失败，而没有人承诺人生不会有逆境。

Like, what is a marriage? Let us put it this way; is marriage a sexual union? No. Is marriage a personal union? No. Is marriage a ceremony? No. Marriage is to carry each other in the carriage of the soul.

那么，什么是婚姻？我们这样说吧：婚姻是性的结合吗？不是。婚姻是个人的结合吗？不是。婚姻是一场仪式吗？不是。婚姻是在灵魂/真我的马车里彼此承载。

'Aatmao Uutar Gianan Utar Stanan Santanan Thaey Samati Vyaha. '

'Aatmao Uutar Gianan Utar Stanan Santanan Thaey Samati Vyaha。'

'Two souls decidedly get together and get to in the oneness and carry on,

'两个灵魂/真我坚定地走到一起，融入一体，继续前行，

then it is called Vyah, that is a marriage. '

那就叫 Vyah，那就是婚姻。'

'Ek Jyot Dyo Moorti Tann Piar Kahiye Sohey. '

'Ek Jyot Dyo Moorti Tann Piar Kahiye Sohey。'

'One soul in two bodies that is called great. '

'一个灵魂/真我在两个身体里，那才叫伟大。'

on,

继续，

then it is called Vyah, that is a marriage. '

那就叫 Vyah，那就是婚姻。'

'Ek Jyot Dyo Moorti Tann Piar Kahiye Sohey. '

'Ek Jyot Dyo Moorti Tann Piar Kahiye Sohey。'

'One soul in two bodies that is called great. '

'一个灵魂/真我在两个身体里，那才叫伟大。'

And it takes few minutes to ask what is your opinion. That is your opinion, that's my opinion, what is the common opinion? Once you start deciding the common opinion and looking for the common good, you will never have trouble in life and that's the Sikh way. Sarbat Da Bala; the totality is the reality of the way of the Sikh life.

花几分钟问问你的意见是什么。那是你的意见，那是我的意见，共同的意见是什么？一旦你开始确定共同的意见，寻找共同的善，你一生就永远不会再有麻烦，这就是锡克之道。Sarbat Da Bala；整体就是锡克生活之道的现实。

I am very glad that we are going this time to join and encourage the spirit of the people, I am very fortunate that we have more programs than we can handle. Our main purpose to tell the Indian Sikhs is the beauty, the science, the technology and the methodology how Shabad Guru is preferred over personal Guru.

我很高兴这次我们要去加入并鼓舞人们的精神，我很幸运，我们的活动多到忙不过来。我们告诉印度锡克人的主要目的，是让他们看到圣音古茹（Shabd Guru）为何胜过个人古茹的美、科学、技术和方法。

main purpose to tell the Indian Sikhs is the beauty, the science, the technology and the methodology how Shabad Guru is preferred over personal Guru.

告诉印度锡克人的主要目的，是让他们看到圣音古茹（Shabd Guru）为何胜过个人古茹的美、科学、技术和方法。

And I am going to speak in Patiala University on the quantum psychology of the neurological effect of projection of the Shabad Guru. Then at Dukh Nivaran Sahib we'll openly speak on the Shabad Guru and then everywhere we go we'll have the subject in the back of our mind and we'll speak and we'll pronounce and we'll make them understand, because at this time it's a very, very rough time, where lot of people are being totally driven into back into the cults into the personal things and people are totally misunderstanding.

我要在帕蒂亚拉大学讲圣音古茹（Shabd Guru）投射对神经影响的量子心理学。然后在 Dukh Nivaran Sahib，我们会公开讲圣音古茹（Shabd Guru），然后我们走到哪里，都会把这个主题放在心里，我们会讲、会说、会让他们明白，因为这个时候是非常、非常艰难的时期，很多人被彻底赶回教派、赶回个人崇拜里，人们完全误解了。

rough time, where lot of people are being totally driven into back into the cults into the personal things and people are totally misunderstanding.

艰难的时期，很多人被彻底赶回教派、赶回个人崇拜里，人们完全误解了。

You have no idea what's going on and unfortunate part is they use the Siri Guru Granth and the Shabad from Siri Guru Granth and interpret it totally different. I never had a more shock in my life than people ask me once that they want to come to Espanola and have a Kirtan whole day and we were very welcoming and we served them whole day, and at about nine O'clock they did the Ardas, so far so good. After nine O'clock when this man did the Ardas and took the Hukam everything was fine, he started doing the Seva of the Siri Guru Granth, I had a shock of my life. All he did is, pick it up and put it this way and put few Rumalas this way and that way and done.

你根本不知道发生了什么，而不幸的是，他们用《圣格兰特经》和《圣格兰特经》里的圣音，却把它解释得完全不一样。我这辈子从没这么震惊过，有一次有人问我，他们想来 Espanola 办一整天的 Kirtan，我们非常欢迎，招待了他们一整天，到了九点左右他们做了 Ardas，到这儿都还好。九点之后，这个人做了 Ardas、领了 Hukam，一切都没问题，他开始做《圣格兰特经》的服务，我经历了这辈子最大的震惊。他所做的，就是把它拿起来，这样一放，再几条 Rumalas 这样那样一搭，就完了。

I have never seen a person in my whole life who can get wisdom from somebody and be so rude. I very politely asked him if he can leave the seat and we asked the Sangat to properly take care of the Siri Guru Granth the way we take care of it. And I told him, I said, "This is our living Guru... "

我这辈子从没见过一个人，能从别人那里得到智慧，却还这么无礼。我很客气地问他能不能离开那个座位，我们请 Sangat 按我们照顾《圣格兰特经》的方式好好照顾它。我跟他说，我说：「这是我们的活着的古茹……」

... "Our living Guru, you can't come here and deal it that as we are all dead. "

……「我们活着的古茹，你不能到这儿来，把它当成我们都死了一样对待。」

care of it. And I told him, I said, "This is our living Guru... "

照顾它。我跟他说，我说：「这是我们的活着的古茹……」

... "Our living Guru, you can't come here and deal it that as we are all dead. "

……「我们活着的古茹，你不能到这儿来，把它当成我们都死了一样对待。」

He said, "The Shabad in this is important, not all this. "

他说：「这里面重要的是圣音，不是这些。」

I said, "All this is important... "

我说：「这些全都重要……」

Side B

B 面

"... You will all face in India. "

「……你们在印度都会面对的。」

If you follow Siri Guru Granth and follow Shabad Guru, where you will understand it? My dear folks, Siri Guru Granth is written, it is a competition and a permutation and combination and the tongue when upper meets the upper palate and it stimulates the hypothalamus, it gives the Kamal Bagasay without anybody's interpretation, you don't need that. It's a very well, perfect program.

如果你跟随《圣格兰特经》、跟随圣音古茹，你在哪里能理解它？亲爱的朋友们，《圣格兰特经》是写下来的，它是一种竞赛，是排列组合，当舌头上面碰到上颚，它刺激下丘脑，它给出 Kamal Bagasay，不需要任何人的解释，你不需要那个。它是一个非常好、完美的程序。

Guru is not with a understanding, it's a Guru itself. There are five words, Gur, Guru, Sat Guru, Siri Guru and Wahe Guru. Wahe Guru is Guru Mantra we have and Siri Guru Granth is our Guru and Sat Guru is the Khalsa, Pura Sat Guru, perfect Sat Guru. So we don't need a individual to respect and serve as a Guru, we'll need a individual to respect and serve him as our brother or sister. We have passed that stage where a man ruled the man.

古茹不是带着一种理解，它本身就是古茹。有五个词：Gur、Guru、Sat Guru、Siri Guru 和 Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo。Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo 是我们有的古茹曼陀罗，《圣格兰特经》是我们的古茹，Sat Guru 是卡尔萨，Pura Sat Guru，完美的 Sat Guru。所以我们不需要一个个人来作为古茹去尊敬和服务，我们需要一个个人来作为我们的兄弟或姐妹去尊敬和服务他。我们已经过了那个人统治人的阶段。

and serve as a Guru, we'll need a individual to respect and serve him as our brother or sister. We have passed that stage where a man ruled the man.

作为古茹去尊敬和服务，我们需要一个个人来作为我们的兄弟或姐妹去尊敬和服务他。我们已经过了那个人统治人的阶段。

So all those who are listening today and ready to go and we are ready to go almost now in two weeks, almost that time has come, must understand that this time we will be asked questions, so many million questions, they have already asked us a list who is coming, what their professions are and how far they have been and how they have adapted this and that. So it is not a question of being a psychologist or a psychiatrist and tear up a person and put it, try to put it together at hundred twenty dollars an hour. It's a question of prevailing the spirit and facing the facts and walking tall and with the grace and those who want to go now, even they should come.

所以今天所有在听的人，准备好要出发的人——我们差不多再过两周就要出发了，那个时刻几乎已经到了——必须明白，这一次我们会面对提问，成千上万的问题。他们已经给我们列了一份名单：谁要来、他们的职业是什么、他们走了多远、他们是怎么适应这个那个的。所以这不是当心理学家或精神科医生的问题，不是把人拆开、再试着拼回去、每小时收一百二十美元的问题。这是让精神挺立、面对事实、昂首挺胸、带着优雅前行的问题。那些现在想去的人，就算他们也应该来。

This is the time of test and trial for the entire Khalsa nation.

这是整个卡尔萨民族的考验与试炼时刻。

walking tall and with the grace and those who want to go now, even they should come.

昂首挺胸、带着优雅前行，那些现在想去的人，就算他们也应该来。

This is the time of test and trial for the entire Khalsa nation.

这是整个卡尔萨民族的考验与试炼时刻。

And mind you, we are Americans, we are a sovereign people. And we shall guarantee the fact that our sovereignty is not violated. We are going to visit a country, India, just exactly they come to visit America, but we are sovereign spiritual people, we have made it very clear and we are very proud of our independence religion and religion is a great virtue and state has no interference and we do not play politics. We are going to inspire our people and meet them hand in hand and be with them and feel them.

你听好了，我们是美国人，我们是一个拥有主权的民族。我们要保证我们主权不被侵犯。我们要去访问一个国家，印度，就像他们来访问美国一样。但我们是拥有主权的灵性民族，这一点我们已经说得非常清楚。我们为自己的独立感到非常自豪，宗教是一种伟大的美德，国家不得干涉，我们不玩政治。我们要去激励我们的人，和他们手拉手相见，和他们在一起，感受他们。

Therefore, we'll be going places. There will be not any beds, so I will leave behind those who cannot sleep but on beds in hotels, but there will be hay to sleep and hay will work as blankets, but we got to go, we got to be with them and there will not going to be bathrooms for you, it is all those sugarcane fields, you remember them very well. But after all, that's not enough.

因此，我们会去很多地方。那里不会有床，所以我会把那些不能在旅馆床上睡觉的人留下。但那里会有干草可以睡，干草会当毯子用。可我们必须去，我们必须和他们在一起。那里不会有洗手间给你用，就是那些甘蔗田，你记得很清楚。但说到底，这还不够。

and there will not going to be bathrooms for you, it is all those sugarcane fields, you remember them very well. But after all, that's not enough.

那里不会有洗手间给你用，就是那些甘蔗田，你记得很清楚。但说到底，这还不够。

We shall not become part of the Sikh history, if we do not stand sawed in the middle and still not recite the Japji. Some of us has to match that tradition, some of us have to sit in a boiling pot and has to utter Wahe Guru. If we do not repeat the Sikh history on us better than what was the past, we cannot be part of that history and that price we have to pay. If we won't pay today at least we can prepare the children to have that spiritual strength, that endurance, and that vastness and we have to create that deathlessness in our spirit, in our creed, in our essence, in our psyche and in our spirit and that is the way to prepare ourself.

如果我们不能像被锯成两半那样挺住，还照样念《Japji》，我们就不会成为锡克历史的一部分。我们当中得有人去匹配那个传统，得有人坐在滚烫的锅里，还要念出 Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo。如果我们不能在自己身上把锡克历史重演得比过去更好，我们就无法成为那段历史的一部分，而这个代价我们必须付。如果我们今天付不出，至少我们可以让孩子准备好，拥有那份灵性力量、那份忍耐、那份辽阔，我们必须在我们精神里、信条里、内在本质里、心识里、灵魂/真我里，创造出那份不死。这就是预备自己的方式。

So technically speaking this visit is great. They didn't let us go for nine years, now we go and we are going this year too. And those who are half cooked, 'may I, may I not, can jump up, come along. Yatra is Yatra and it is just done for the sake of the spirit, the soul, it has nothing for the physical comfort and discomfort.

所以从技术上说，这次朝圣很棒。他们九年不让我们去，现在我们去，今年也要去。那些半生不熟的人，「我可以吗，我不可以吗」，可以跳起来，一起来。Yatra 就是 Yatra，它只是为了灵魂/真我、为了精神而做的，跟身体的舒服不舒服毫无关系。

jump up, come along. Yatra is Yatra and it is just done for the sake of the spirit, the soul, it has nothing for the physical comfort and discomfort.

跳起来，一起来。Yatra 就是 Yatra，它只是为了灵魂/真我、为了精神而做的，跟身体的舒服不舒服毫无关系。

So we are ready to go and this Yatra was supposed to be very isolated, comfortable Yatra, but some of us will be, but those who like to just take side trips must be ready for heavy duty side trips, because we have only seven, eight days and we have to go in every corner of the Punjab to let people know we are with them and they are with us and we have to show them the spirit of Ang Sung Wahe Guru and it should not bother us. It should not. It should be our privilege, our honor and our strength. Let us test it.

所以我们准备好出发了，这次 Yatra 本该是一次非常封闭、舒适的 Yatra，我们当中有些人会是这样，但那些喜欢顺路绕道的人，得准备好应付重负荷的绕道，因为我们只有 7、8 天，我们得走遍旁遮普的每一个角落，让人们知道我们和他们在一起，他们和我们在一起，我们得让他们看到 Ang Sung Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo 的精神，而这不该困扰我们。它不该。它该是我们的特权、我们的荣耀、我们的力量。让我们来检验它。

So Khalsa of the Guru, this is a straight calling, with no hesitation whatsoever, with no... It is not a intellectual trip, or a intelligent trip or a bookish trip, it's not reading the paper, fifty papers and become professor so and so, it is absolutely not, there is no rotten stuff here, it is just the grand glow of the Khalsa going through the layers of populous Punjab, letting them know 'there lives the spirit of Guru Gobind Singh now and forever,' and we have to take care of it.

所以古茹的卡尔萨，这是一次直截了当的召唤，没有丝毫犹豫，没有……这不是一趟智性之旅，不是一趟智力之旅，不是一趟书本之旅，不是读论文，读五十篇论文，然后变成某某教授，绝对不是，这里没有腐烂的东西，只有卡尔萨那宏大的光芒，穿过人口稠密的旁遮普的层层人群，让他们知道「Guru Gobind Singh 的精神现在就活在那里，永远活着」，而我们必须守护它。

the layers of populous Punjab, letting them know 'there lives the spirit of Guru Gobind Singh now and forever,' and we have to take care of it.

穿过人口稠密的旁遮普的层层人群，让他们知道「Guru Gobind Singh 的精神现在就活在那里，永远活着」，而我们必须守护它。

I know it is very difficult in Punjab to keep white clothes on, but you shall, you shall. You shall be spic and span clean white, absolute real and those who have to clean Prakarma, I repeat again, you have to take your sleeping bag with you, because though for each one of you there will be humungous security arrangement, they are going to clear twenty five kilometer area, comb it for you, but still it is better that we make this Prakarma as humble as possible and remain within the vicinity as far as possible. You will have a Z security, that's true.

我知道在旁遮普要保持穿白衣服很难，但你们要穿，你们要穿。你们要干干净净、纯白无瑕，绝对真实。那些要去清扫金庙圣池周围的环形圣道（Prakarma）的人，我再重复一遍，你们必须带上睡袋，因为虽然你们每个人都会有庞大的安保安排，他们会清空 25 公里的区域，为你们梳理一遍，但还是尽量让这次环形圣道之行保持谦卑，尽量待在附近范围内为好。你们会有 Z 级安保，这是真的。

You are going there as sons and daughter of Guru Gobind Singh but we don't want anybody to exploit our visit in any derogatory form, therefore, we'll try to keep it as humble and as sweet as we can and that's the way to go.

你们是作为 Guru Gobind Singh 的儿女去那里的，但我们不希望任何人以任何贬损的方式利用我们的到访，因此，我们会尽量保持谦卑、尽量温和，这才是该有的方式。

want anybody to exploit our visit in any derogatory form, therefore, we'll try to keep it as humble and as sweet as we can and that's the way to go.

不希望任何人以任何贬损的方式利用我们的到访，因此，我们会尽量保持谦卑、尽量温和，这才是该有的方式。

So I am just giving you all update that still there is a time to go and we should go. Our children are waiting and I'll be glad to see them all filled with dirt and everything. I was told that they didn't have a dhobi, I can tell you I laughed so much that people in the aeroplane thought I have gone insane, because I was reading that letter, then in the middle of that letter I called my chief executive secretary, I said, "In Amritsar if we cannot get a dhobi, there must be something wrong with the whole Indian structure, check it out. " But my, my feeling, personal feeling was, sometime things happen which nobody can explain.

所以我只是给大家通报一下最新情况，还有时间，我们应该去。我们的孩子在等着，我会很高兴看到他们满身是土、浑身脏兮兮的样子。有人告诉我他们没有洗衣工，我跟你说我笑得不行，飞机上的人都以为我疯了，因为我在读那封信，读到一半我就打电话给我的首席执行秘书，我说：「在阿姆利则，如果我们连个洗衣工都找不到，那整个印度的结构肯定有问题，去查一查。」但我的，我的感觉，我个人的感觉是，有时候事情发生了，没人能解释。

wrong with the whole Indian structure, check it out. " But my, my feeling, personal feeling was, sometime things happen which nobody can explain.

整个印度的结构有问题，去查一查。」但我的，我的感觉，我个人的感觉是，有时候事情发生了，没人能解释。

Well, I was posted in Amritsar for four and a half years, I think we can get dozen dhobis a minute. There is a whole area which belongs to dhobis, but then they couldn't get a dhobi, it is amazing. So my personal feeling is, must have some, something must have gone wrong somewhere for a right purpose and then I was very grateful to my son who send me a picture that our children doing the laundry themself. I tell you if I ever get to make a school there, I'll see that every children washes his laundry himself and herself, and never give them to dhobi again, never do that mistake. They should not only do laundry, they will starch it and they will also press it properly.

我在阿姆利则驻扎过 4 年半，我想我们一分钟就能找到一打洗衣工。有一整片区域都是洗衣工的，可他们居然找不到一个洗衣工，真是不可思议。所以我个人的感觉是，肯定是哪里出了什么岔子，而且是为了一个正当的目的。后来我非常感激我的儿子，他给我发了一张照片，我们的孩子自己在洗衣服。我跟你说，如果我有机会在那里办一所学校，我会让每个孩子都自己洗自己的衣服，再也不交给洗衣工，再也不犯那个错误。他们不仅应该洗衣服，还要上浆，还要好好熨烫。

We, we should do that, we should sometime make them understand that they are complete and perfect. We give them too much wrong values and wrong promises and wrong comforts and later on it will come to our head and we can't face it.

我们，我们应该那样做，我们应该找个时候让他们明白，他们是完整而完美的。我们给了他们太多错误的价值观、错误的承诺和错误的安逸，日后这些都会落到我们头上，我们没法面对。

and perfect. We give them too much wrong values and wrong promises and wrong comforts and later on it will come to our head and we can't face it.

而完美的。我们给了他们太多错误的价值观、错误的承诺和错误的安逸，日后这些都会落到我们头上，我们没法面对。

That's what my beautiful, wonderful grandfather told me. He said, "Yes, the state is yours, this world is yours and people bow to you, but if you do not have a value to carry your head and walk tall, one day your head will roll in the dust. So correctly earn the right values. "

这就是我那位美丽、了不起的祖父告诉我的。他说：「没错，国家是你的，这个世界是你的，人们向你鞠躬，但如果你没有一种价值观让你昂首挺胸地走路，总有一天你的头会在尘土里打滚。所以，要正确地挣得真正的价值观。」

And I said, "Where I can earn that? "

我说：「我在哪里能挣到它？」

And he said, "From the Guru. " And he said, "Go and learn, learn the Guru, learn the values of the Guru. "

他说：「从古茹（Guru）那里。」他说：「去学习，学习古茹，学习古茹的价值观。」

And I have asked you when you are coming with me on this Yatra we are going to the house of Guru Ram Das where we come from, where we belong to, we are going back home and there is no more comfortable feeling than that. I wish I should exchange myself with these students who are in Amritsar and I am not. I am willing to exchange it for anything.

我问过你们，当你们跟我一起走上这趟朝圣之旅，我们要去 Guru Ram Das 的家，那是我们来自的地方，是我们所属的地方，我们要回家了，没有比这更舒服的感觉了。我真希望我能把自己跟那些在阿姆利则的学生交换，而我不在那里。我愿意拿任何东西来交换。

feeling than that. I wish I should exchange myself with these students who are in Amritsar and I am not. I am willing to exchange it for anything.

比那更舒服的感觉。我真希望我能把自己跟那些在阿姆利则的学生交换，而我不在那里。我愿意拿任何东西来交换。

One day one of them have to carry this, I know that and one of them and one of you have to carry this, I know that, but with best of our feelings and our prayers I am asking you, let us go to Amritsar, let us go to house of Guru Ram Das and let us carry the bright beautiful spirit of the Khalsa and go through the layers of Punjab, the populous and go through it for just sharing, for caring, for compassion, for kindness and as a honorable courtesy because that gave us the house of the Guru. 'Wahe Guru Ji Ka Khalsa, Wahe Guru Ji Ki Fateh. '

总有一天，他们中的一个人得扛起这个，我知道，他们中的一个，你们中的一个，得扛起这个，我知道，但带着我们最好的情感和祈祷，我请求你们，让我们去阿姆利则，让我们去 Guru Ram Das 的家，让我们带着卡尔萨（Khalsa）明亮美丽的灵，穿过旁遮普的层层人烟，穿过它，只为分享，只为关怀，只为慈悲，只为善良，也作为一种光荣的礼节，因为是它给了我们古茹的家。「Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo Ji Ka Khalsa, Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo Ji Ki Fateh。」

Students: 'Wahe Guru Ji Ka Khalsa, Wahe Guru Ji Ki Fateh. '

学生：「Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo Ji Ka Khalsa, Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo Ji Ki Fateh。」

Student: I would like to ask a question on (?)?

学生：我想问一个问题（？）？

YB: Now you have stood in the Sangat, sure you are allowed.

YB：现在你已经站在 Sangat 里了，当然你可以问。

Student: The best school in India, the boarding school cost about thirteen hundred dollars a year and why we are charging two hundred ten dollars and there is not proper teachers and proper place...?

学生：印度最好的学校，寄宿学校一年大约要一千三百美元，为什么我们收两百一十美元，却没有合适的老师、合适的地方……？

cost about thirteen hundred dollars a year and why we are charging two hundred ten dollars and there is not proper teachers and proper place...?

一年大约要一千三百美元，为什么我们收两百一十美元，却没有合适的老师、合适的地方……？

YB: It's a very simple thing my dear, that account and this accountancy is very open and you should take courage to go and sit in the office and discuss.

YB：这很简单，亲爱的，那本账和这套账目都是公开的，你应该鼓起勇气去办公室坐下来谈。

Student: I called (?) Kaur, and she said it is not allowed.

学生：我打电话给（？）Kaur，她说这不允许。

YB: No, no, no this is, this is, this is not true.

YB：不，不，不，这不是，这不是，这不是真的。

Student: I called it to her and (?).

学生：我打电话跟她说了，还有（？）。

YB: That is all right, you can go and you can go and discuss the account with her.

YB：那没关系，你可以去，你可以去跟她谈账目。

Student: I did and she said, 'you are not allowed and you can write me a proposal. '

学生：我去了，她说，「你不被允许，你可以给我写一份提案。」

YB: Oh then, write her a proposal, she will, perhaps she wants to give you answer.

YB：哦，那就给她写一份提案，她也许会，也许她想给你答复。

Student: If you don't have the answer, this is your administration.

学生：如果你没有答复，这是你的管理层。

YB: You are so mistaken.

YB：你错得太离谱了。

Student: I am not mistaken.

学生：我没有错。

YB: This body handles its account totally independently and I administer it so it can be right. And if there, if you find anything wrong in the accounts the proper person will be punished properly and it's a better account than your books, I can assure you that.

YB：这个机构完全独立地处理自己的账目，由我来管理，这样它才能正常运转。如果，如果你在账目里发现任何问题，该负责的人会受到应有的惩罚，而且这套账比你们的账本更好，我可以向你保证。

Student: (?) you can come and find...

学生：（？）你可以来查……

YB: No it has been, it has been audited.

YB：不，它已经，它已经审计过了。

and it's a better account than your books, I can assure you that.

而且这套账比你们的账本更好，我可以向你保证。

Student: (?) you can come and find...

学生：（？）你可以来查……

YB: No it has been, it has been audited.

YB：不，它已经，它已经审计过了。

Student: Why? I mean, we have been audited, we prepare our books and...

学生：为什么？我的意思是，我们也被审计过，我们做我们的账本，还有……

YB: That's what I said, this account has been audited, and we have paid India hundred twenty thousand dollars more innocently which we do not think we can recover and that is where the problem is, therefore, you have every right to audit the accounts.

YB：我就是这么说的，这套账已经审计过了，我们还无辜地多付了印度十二万美元，我们认为这笔钱收不回来，问题就出在这里，所以，你完全有权审计这些账目。

Student: I mean, you can give us an answer like even if you take...

学生：我的意思是，你可以给我们一个答复，就算你拿……

YB: Am I, am I supposed to give you an answer for the fact that you don't understand simple something, because you cannot deal with officially?

YB：难道我，难道我该为你不懂一件简单的事给你一个答复吗，因为你没法正式地处理它？

Student: If you are saving money from this money to build the school, I can understand.

学生：如果你从这笔钱里省钱去建学校，我能理解。

YB: No, I am not doing anything.

YB：不，我什么都没做。

Student: I have lived in Ludhiana...

学生：我在卢迪亚纳住过……

YB: These are your presumptions and you are absolutely neurotic to bring this question.

YB：这些都是你的假设，你提出这个问题，完全是神经质。

Student: Not neurotic, you can say anything you want.

学生：不是神经质，你想说什么都可以。

YB: Absolutely.

YB：绝对是。

Student: (-----)

学生：（-----）

YB: This is not right, this is not right. You have the right to go to the office and deal with it.

YB：这不对，这不对。你有权去办公室处理这件事。

you want.

你想。

YB: Absolutely.

YB：绝对是。

Student: (-----)

学生：（-----）

YB: This is not right, this is not right. You have the right to go to the office and deal with it.

YB：这不对，这不对。你有权去办公室处理这件事。

Student: I asked the lady, she said, "You are not allowed, parents are not allowed to know. "

学生：我问了那位女士，她说，「你不被允许，父母不允许知道。」

YB: That's not true.

YB：那不是真的。

Student: Then she is lying then.

学生：那她就是在撒谎了。

YB: It is none of your business to tell her anything or tell me anything.

YB：你告诉她什么或者告诉我什么，都不关你的事。

Student: Why?

学生：为什么？

YB: You asked me a question, I gave you an answer.

YB：你问我一个问题，我给了你一个答案。

Student: Okay, that's your answer (?)...

学生：好吧，那就是你的答案（？）……

YB: The question is this is the Gurdwara and we do not want to turn into a battlefield.

YB：问题在于，这是谒师所（Gurdwara），我们不想把它变成战场。

Student: It is not a battlefield.

学生：它不是战场。

YB: It is, it is a very simple administration question, which you could have solved. Everything which is according to the administration can be solved, you have upset the Sangat for nothing, and you have disturbed the atmosphere for nothing. And this is not our tradition, this is...

YB：它就是，这是一个非常简单的管理问题，你本来可以解决的。凡是按照管理程序能解决的事都能解决，你平白无故扰乱了共修团体（Sangat），平白无故破坏了这里的氛围。这不是我们的传统，这是……

Student:... proper answer there is not...

学生：……那里没有恰当的答案……

for nothing, and you have disturbed the atmosphere for nothing. And this is not our tradition, this is...

平白无故，你平白无故破坏了这里的氛围。这不是我们的传统，这是……

Student:... proper answer there is not...

学生：……那里没有恰当的答案……

YB: This is not the tradition of Guru Ram Das ashram, please understand and it should not be allowed to be broken under any cost, that's why I am not willing to discuss with you. This is not a Jalsa, this is the Gurdwara and we do not discuss accounts and other things in the Gurdwara. Gurdwara is for the Guru's words and Guru's situation.

YB：这不是 Guru Ram Das 灵修社区（ashram）的传统，请你明白，而且无论如何都不该允许它被破坏，所以我不愿意跟你讨论。这不是 Jalsa，这是谒师所，我们在谒师所里不讨论账目和其他事情。谒师所是为了 Guru 的圣言和 Guru 的处境。

Student: We should not be doing business in the name of Guru.

学生：我们不该以 Guru 的名义做生意。

YB: Nobody...

YB：没有人……

Student: Twenty years ago I called you, you gave me that bad language you use, it is not right. You are the leader, we can make millions of Sikhs in this world.

学生：二十年前我打电话给你，你对我用了你那种难听的话，那是不对的。你是领袖，我们可以在这个世界上造就千百万锡克人。

YB: No, no we are not going to chant now, you are a angry man and you must understand it will not be tolerated in future and I am telling you very clear policy of it.

YB：不，不，我们现在不唱诵，你是个愤怒的人，你必须明白，将来这不会被容忍，我跟你讲清楚这方面的政策。

not going to chant now, you are a angry man and you must understand it will not be tolerated in future and I am telling you very clear policy of it.

现在不唱诵，你是个愤怒的人，你必须明白，将来这不会被容忍，我跟你讲清楚这方面的政策。

People who cannot have discipline in the Gurdwara cannot belong to the Gurdwara. We are not going to make it a political field here. Your grudges can be totally discussed outside the four walls of Guru Ram Das ashram. And for any relationship, nobody should take privilege in future. Let it be set precedent. This is the tradition of many Gurdwaras, but this shall not be a tradition of this Gurdwara. And in future please take care of it very clearly, that's why I am trying to avoid the issue very clearly. We shall discuss this. It may be Indian way to stand up and ask questions in the Gurdwara and create a war, but it will not be tolerated to spoil the harmony of Guru Ram Das ashram in future.

在谒师所里不能守纪律的人，就不能属于谒师所。我们不会把这里变成政治场。你的怨恨完全可以在 Guru Ram Das 灵修社区这四堵墙外面去谈。至于任何关系，将来谁都不该享有特权。就让它成为先例。这是许多谒师所的传统，但这不会成为这个谒师所的传统。将来请你们把这一点弄得很清楚，所以我才尽量把这个问题讲得很清楚。我们会讨论这件事。站起来在谒师所里提问、挑起战争，也许是印度人的做法，但将来绝不容忍破坏 Guru Ram Das 灵修社区的和谐。

Student: Yogis ask the questions to Guru Nanak, and he answered everything clearly.

学生：瑜伽士们向 Guru Nanak 提问，他把一切都回答得很清楚。

YB: That is...

YB：那是……

Student: If you don't want to follow that tradition, it is up to you.

学生：如果你不想遵循那个传统，那是你的事。

questions to Guru Nanak, and he answered everything clearly.

向 Guru Nanak 提出的问题，他都清清楚楚地回答了。

YB: That is...

YB：那就是……

Student: If you don't want to follow that tradition, it is up to you.

学生：如果你不想遵循那个传统，那随你。

YB: We will not follow any tradition here except what we are following. I still repeat that we shall not make Guru Ram Das ashram as a debating center. We shall not insult ourself as a nation; if some member has any difficulty, he shall go to the secretariat and he should take proper procedure to deal with it. Nobody is entitled here to speak, except to explain Guru and Guru's word, that's the tradition and that we keep. The sanctity of Harimandir has not been violated even today and we shall not tolerate to violate the sanctity of Guru Ram Das ashram same way.

YB：我们在这里不遵循任何传统，只遵循我们正在遵循的。我再重复一遍，我们不会把 Guru Ram Das 灵修社区变成辩论中心。我们不会作为一个团体侮辱自己；如果某个成员有什么困难，他应该去秘书处，按正当程序处理。在这里，除了讲解古茹和古茹的圣言，谁都没有资格发言，这就是传统，我们坚守它。金庙的神圣性直到今天都没有被侵犯，我们同样不会容忍 Guru Ram Das 灵修社区的神圣性被侵犯。

Some people have a bad habit, that is true, but we can have discipline and if we do not understand that discipline, then we do not belong to this place.

有些人有坏习惯，这是事实，但我们可以有纪律，如果我们不理解那纪律，那我们就不属于这个地方。

It is not that I do not want to give you answer, and I do not have the answers for all this. But it is my responsibility also to sit here and make it very clear. And I will like to ask everybody who participate here that we must keep this tradition alive. Purely and simply. I hope we all understand that. Is that clear?

不是我不想给你答案，也不是我没有这一切的答案。但坐在这里把它讲清楚，也是我的责任。我想请每一位在这里参与的人，我们必须让这个传统活着。纯粹而简单。我希望我们都明白这一点。清楚了吗？

like to ask everybody who participate here that we must keep this tradition alive. Purely and simply. I hope we all understand that. Is that clear?

想请每一位在这里参与的人，我们必须让这个传统活着。纯粹而简单。我希望我们都明白这一点。清楚了吗？

Students: Wahe Guru.

学生：Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo。

YB: There shall never be a situation like this again, so long Guru Ram Das ashram stays open in the name of Guru Ram Das. There is a secretariat right opposite to the road, you can go and picket there and you can do anything you want and nothing here. Here we come for development of the spirit and peace of mind and grace and dignity. 'Wahe Guru Ji Ka Khalsa, Wahe Guru Ji Ki Fateh. '

YB：只要 Guru Ram Das 灵修社区还以 Guru Ram Das 之名开放，就绝不会再出现这样的情况。马路正对面就有个秘书处，你可以去那里抗议，你想做什么都行，但不要在这里做。我们来到这里，是为了灵性的成长、内心的平静、优雅和尊严。「Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo Ji Ka Khalsa, Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo Ji Ki Fateh。」

Students: 'Wahe Guru Ji Ka Khalsa, Wahe Guru Ji Ki Fateh. '

学生：「Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo Ji Ka Khalsa, Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo Ji Ki Fateh。」

Student: Boleeeeey Soooo Nihaaaaal...

学生：Boleeeeey Soooo Nihaaaaal……

Students: Sat Siri Akal...

学生：Sat Siri Akal……

(Student reading Hukam)

（学生诵读 Hukam）

Students: Wahe Guru Ji Ka Khalsa, Wahe Guru Ji Ki Fateh.

学生：Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo Ji Ka Khalsa, Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo Ji Ki Fateh。

Student: Boleeeeey Soooo Nihaaaaal...

学生：Boleeeeey Soooo Nihaaaaal……

Students: Sat Siri Akal...

学生：Sat Siri Akal……

(Student reading Hukam)

（学生诵读 Hukam）

Students: Wahe Guru Ji Ka Khalsa, Wahe Guru Ji Ki Fateh.

学生：Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo Ji Ka Khalsa, Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo Ji Ki Fateh。

Student (translation of the Hukam): Maroo fifth channel of infinite truth, the saints who realize the Guru's instruction remain sated and satiated. The saints who realize the Guru's instruction remain sated and satiated. They who are blessed with the name's glory their praise cannot at all be uttered. My beloved is an invaluable jewel, unattainable and unweighable is His name, pause. He whose soul is pleased with the imperishable Lord, he by Guru's grace obtains the quintessence of divine knowledge. He who vanishes ego from his mind sees all, but remains merged in the Lord's thought.

学生（Hukam 的翻译）：Maroo 第五调，无限真理的通道，那些领悟古茹教诲的圣徒始终满足、饱足。那些领悟古茹教诲的圣徒始终满足、饱足。那些被圣名荣耀赐福的人，他们的赞美根本无法言说。我所爱的是无价的珍宝，他的圣名无法企及、无法衡量，停顿。那个灵魂/真我因不朽之主而喜悦的人，他靠古茹的优雅获得神圣知识的精髓。那个从心智中消除小我的人看见一切，却依然融入主的念头中。

he by Guru's grace obtains the quintessence of divine knowledge. He who vanishes ego from his mind sees all, but remains merged in the Lord's thought.

他靠古茹的优雅获得神圣知识的精髓。那个从心智中消除小我的人看见一切，却依然融入主的念头中。

Permanent is the seat of those who through the Guru realize their Lord's presence. Meeting the Guru they remain awake night and day and attach themselves to the Lord's service. They are sated and satiated perfectly and are easily absorbed in the Lord's trance. They come upon the Lord's treasure, it is through that Guru that they obtain it, O Nanak. Meeting the Guru they remain awake night and day and attach themselves to the Lord's service. They are sated and satiated perfectly and are easily absorbed in the Lord's trance. They come upon the Lord's treasure, it is through the Guru that they obtain it, O Nanak. Wahe Guru Ji Ka Khalsa, Wahe Guru Ji Ki Fateh.

那些通过古茹领悟到主之临在的人，他们的座位永恒。遇见古茹，他们日夜保持觉醒，把自己系于主的服务。他们完全满足、饱足，轻松融入主的出神。他们遇见主的宝藏，正是通过那位古茹，他们才获得它，哦 Nanak。遇见古茹，他们日夜保持觉醒，把自己系于主的服务。他们完全满足、饱足，轻松融入主的出神。他们遇见主的宝藏，正是通过古茹，他们才获得它，哦 Nanak。Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo Ji Ka Khalsa, Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo Ji Ki Fateh。

Students: Wahe Guru Ji Ka Khalsa, Wahe Guru Ji Ki Fateh.

学生们：Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo Ji Ka Khalsa, Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo Ji Ki Fateh。

the Guru that they obtain it, O Nanak. Wahe Guru Ji Ka Khalsa, Wahe Guru Ji Ki Fateh.

古茹，他们才获得它，哦 Nanak。Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo Ji Ka Khalsa, Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo Ji Ki Fateh。

Students: Wahe Guru Ji Ka Khalsa, Wahe Guru Ji Ki Fateh.

学生们：Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo Ji Ka Khalsa, Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo Ji Ki Fateh。

Student: This Hukam is from Guru Arjun Devji and he says that those beloved saints who realize and practice the Guru's teachings, they are always satisfied and taken care of. They who are blessed with the true identity of the name's glory their praise just can't be spoken. My beloved says Guru is an invaluable jewel. He is vast, unattainable and unweighable, is His true identity, pause. That one whose mind is so filled with thoughts and the vibration of the imperishable Lord, he by Guru's grace obtains the essence and experience of divine knowledge. He who gets rid of his ego from his mind comes to know and see all but still remains in the Lord's thought.

学生：这段 Hukam 来自 Guru Arjun Devji，他说那些领悟并实践古茹教诲的挚爱圣徒，总是满足的，总是被照顾的。那些被圣名荣耀的真实身份赐福的人，他们的赞美就是说不出来。我所爱者说，古茹是无价的珍宝。他是浩瀚的、无法企及的、无法衡量的，是他的真实身份，停顿。那个心智如此充满念头、充满不朽之主振动的人，他靠古茹的优雅获得神圣知识的精髓和体验。那个从心智中摆脱小我的人，会知道并看见一切，却依然留在主的念头中。

and experience of divine knowledge. He who gets rid of his ego from his mind comes to know and see all but still remains in the Lord's thought.

和神圣知识的体验。那个从心智中摆脱小我的人，会知道并看见一切，却依然留在主的念头中。

Permanent is the seat of that one who through the Guru realizes the Lord's presence everywhere. Meeting the Guru they who practice the technology remain awake night and day and attach themselves only to the Lord's service. They are taken care of and satisfied, perfectly and easily are they absorbed in the Lord's meditation. They come upon the Lord's treasure that great storehouse and treasure of the Lord's will. It is through Guru that they obtain this experience, O Nanak.

永恒，是那个通过古茹而在处处都体认到神的存在之人的座位。遇见古茹后，那些修习这门技术的人日夜保持清醒，只把自己系在神的服务上。他们被照顾着、被满足着，完美而轻松地融入对神的冥想。他们撞见神的宝藏，那是神的意志的伟大宝库。那纳克啊，正是通过古茹，他们才得到这份体验。

So Guru concludes and says meeting the Guru they who practice the teachings remain awake night and day and attach and (?) themselves to the Lord's service. They are totally taken care of and satisfied and perfectly and easily are they absorbed in the blissful trance of the one lord. They come upon the true treasure of the lord, it is through the Guru they obtain the God. Wahe Guru Ji Ka Khalsa, Wahe Guru Ji Ki Fateh. '

所以古茹总结说，遇见古茹后，那些修习这些教导的人日夜保持清醒，把自己系在神的服务上。他们被完全照顾着、被满足着，完美而轻松地融入那唯一的神的极乐禅定。他们撞见神的真正宝藏，正是通过古茹，他们得到神。Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo Ji Ka Khalsa, Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo Ji Ki Fateh。

Students: Wahe Guru Ji Ka Khalsa, Wahe Guru Ji Ki Fateh.

学生：Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo Ji Ka Khalsa, Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo Ji Ki Fateh。

(Students sing 'Sab Sikhan Ko Hukamahee... ')

（学生唱「Sab Sikhan Ko Hukamahee……」）