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... What is that camp outside?
……外面那个营地是什么？
Students: (----)
学生：（----）
YB: Oh, baby camp?
YB：哦，宝宝营地？
Students: (----)
学生：（----）
YB: Good. That is very nice. What happened to the Mexican camp? Yeah. So what should we talk now? Okay let me finish this cauliflower, I'll tell you.
YB：好。那很好。墨西哥营地怎么样了？嗯。那我们现在该谈什么？好吧，让我把这花椰菜吃完，我就告诉你们。
... System cannot take the required juices out. That is why, they are taken. In Indian cooking everything is cooked in ghee, oils are never used, oils are the alternative because ghee is not available and ghee is one thing which is preserved, preserved without preserving it. Oil can get ruined, after a while, it can catch up with own bacterias but ghee is when the butter is clarified and transferred into a ghee state, you can keep it anywhere you want, it won't, it won't spoil and it has a melting point just with the body...
……系统无法把所需的汁液提取出来。所以，它们才被取出来。印度菜里什么都用酥油（ghee）来煮，从不用油，油只是替代品，因为没有酥油，而酥油是一种能保存的东西，不用特意保存就能保存。油会坏，过一阵子，它就会沾上自己的细菌，但酥油是黄油被澄清、转化成酥油状态之后，你想放哪儿就放哪儿，它不会，它不会坏，而且它的熔点正好和身体……
... You think I am going to talk to anybody else, I only catch up those people who do not know who they are.
……你以为我会跟别人讲吗，我只找那些不知道自己是谁的人。
(Students' laughter)
（学生笑）
You have survived. Aren't you from the ex-Espanolian.
你活下来了。你不是从那个前Espanolian来的吗。
Students: Yes sir.
学生：是的，先生。
YB: Yeah, yeah and I took you and marry you.
YB：对，对，我把你带走，让你结了婚。
Student: Yes sir.
学生：是的，先生。
YB: And I arrange everything against you right?
YB：我还把一切都安排得跟你作对，对吧？
(Students' laughter)
（学生笑）
I am really your enemy, hah? You are right. I wanted to acknowledge it, it's being taped.
我真是你的敌人，哈？你说得对。我想把这一点说清楚，它正在被录音。
(Students' laughter)
（学生笑）
Come on latecomers. There are some people behind this truck, how many?
来吧，迟到的人。那辆卡车后面还有些人，有多少？
(Students' laughter)
（学生笑）
You know how late I am, I came almost one hour late. I think you have some television sets in the tents to watch this Marti and Mindey and something.
你们知道我迟了多久吗，我几乎迟了一个小时。我想你们的帐篷里有些电视机，在看这个Marti和Mindey什么的。
(Students' laughter)
（学生笑）
Why not people come on time here? Come on latecomers watch at them please, haha, hah, come on now. I waited all this time to start, come on, hurry up. That's good two friends have found each other, that is nice.
为什么人们不按时来这儿？来吧，迟到的人，请大家看看他们，哈哈，哈，来吧。我一直等着才开始，来吧，快点。很好，两个朋友找到了彼此，这很好。
Concept of concession in life, concept of concession in life and the need and demand of it, even the very thought of it, into the depth of your consciousness that you need concession in life is actually there is a definite deficiency in life and you are giving yourself a chance that you can't handle it. Actually the Creator has made your life totally complete and perfect and basically in elementary consciousness there is no need of any concession whatsoever. However looking at reality this is what we want. We have a concept of comfort. Concept of comfort which we have is shuniya, I do nothing, I don't need anything, I don't want anything, everything should be happening. When I don't need anything and I don't want anything and I don't know anything, then why anything should be happening in connection with me. That's what it is and this is called duality.
生命中让步的概念，生命中让步的概念，以及它的需要和需求，甚至只是想到它，深入你的意识深处——你在生命中需要让步，这实际上意味着生命中确实有某种缺失，而你是在给自己一个机会，让自己承认你应付不了。事实上，造物主已经把你的生命造得完全圆满、完美，从根本上说，在最初的意识里，根本不需要任何让步。然而，看看现实，我们想要的却是另一回事。我们有一种舒适的概念。我们有的舒适概念就是空（shuniya）：我什么都不做，我不需要任何东西，我不想要任何东西，一切都应该自然发生。当我不需要任何东西、不想要任何东西、什么都不知道的时候，那为什么还要有任何事情跟我发生关联呢。事情就是这样，这就叫二元对立。
Once I asked somebody, "Why you make that much money? What you need it for?"
有一次我问一个人：「你赚那么多钱干什么？你需要它做什么？」
He said, "I want to have a very comfortable retirement." It was five years ago and then I went to his funeral. He had a comfortable not even life, the guy die at thirty-eight but you should have seen him working, it would have told you how much work can make you go crazy? At night he will sit down and check the stocks he has to buy, he had a full job and then he has a second job, two jobs plus stock market he will handle individually for himself, these three jobs he was doing and he was making tons of money, tons of money, not to pay the taxes, he was investing his tons of money, very successful and within my own knowledge in five years he built up a empire and died of a heart attack and so busy he was, he never left his will, there was no will.
他说：「我想有一个非常舒适的退休生活。」那是五年前的事，后来我去参加了他的葬礼。他连舒适的生活都没过上，那家伙三十八岁就死了，但你真该看看他工作的样子，那会告诉你工作能让人疯到什么程度。晚上他会坐下来查他该买哪些股票，他有一份全职工作，还有第二份工作，两份工作再加上他自己一个人打理的股市，这三份活他都在干，他赚了大把大把的钱，大把大把的钱，为了不交税，他把大把的钱拿去投资，非常成功，就我所知，五年之内他建立起一个帝国，然后死于心脏病，他太忙了，连遗嘱都没留下，根本没有遗嘱。
You can be sometime that busy, we are tying to ask Guru Teerath Singh our chancellor and attorney at law to come here two days, twenty-fifth, twenty-sixth to perhaps talk to you, you woman and the law, so that you can ask as many question as you want and get accustom to know what is going on in the world but it is subject to, if he can afford to come, we are all ready for it. This habit that, 'I want comfort,' this imaginary comfort is the root cause of your all wrong imaginations. Actually speaking frankly fulfillment of a job to which you have commitment is actually your happiness. You took a project, you complete it successfully, it is done and you can say, 'wow, I got it, I did it and it is done' but on the other hand, when you don't want to work, then you have one problem to keep yourself busy. Some people do not want to exercise, they get sick.
你有时候可以那么忙，我们正在试着请我们的校监兼执业律师 Guru Teerath Singh 在二十五号、二十六号来这里两天，也许跟你们谈谈，你们女人和法律，这样你们想问多少问题就问多少，慢慢熟悉世界上正在发生什么，但这要看情况，如果他能抽身来，我们一切都准备好了。这个习惯，「我要舒服」，这个想象出来的舒服，是你们所有错误想象的根源。说实话，完成一件你有承诺的工作，其实就是你的快乐。你接了一个项目，你成功完成了它，它做完了，你可以说，「哇，我做到了，我完成了，它结束了」，但另一方面，当你不想干活的时候，你就有一个问题，怎么让自己忙起来。有些人不愿意锻炼，他们就生病。
A city man went to a village and he saw at the middle of the day, sun was burning hot and this man was ploughing(plowing) the field and sweating and muddy he was. He washed him and he came on the well and sat and waited for him after two, three hours of hard work, he finished his job and came there to eat. He came he went under the well, clean himself, sat down, changed his that one dhoti he was wearing and he said, "Welcome, you have come from city."
一个城里人去了一个村子，他看见正午时分，太阳火辣辣地晒着，这个人正在犁地，满头大汗，一身泥巴。他洗了洗自己，来到井边坐下，等了他两三个小时的辛苦劳作之后，他干完了活，过来吃饭。他来了，走到井边，把自己洗干净，坐下来，换掉了他身上穿的那条 dhoti，然后他说，「欢迎，你是从城里来的。」
He said, he said, "Yeah, I have come from city, I have one question to ask, what you were doing under that skin such burning sun?"
他说，他说，「是啊，我是从城里来的，我有个问题要问，你刚才在那样的烈日下，在那层皮底下干什么？」
He said, "Where?"
他说，「哪儿？」
He said, "In those fields."
他说，「就在那些地里。」
He said, "Oh no, my skin is not burning, put your hand on my skin because with mud and all that and sweat it is called mud massage."
他说，「哦不，我的皮没在烧，把手放在我皮肤上，因为加上泥巴和那些东西还有汗，这叫泥巴按摩。」
(Students' laughter)
（学生们大笑）
He said, "Do you have you in the city the mud baths?"
他说，「你们城里有没有泥浴？」
He said, "Yeah."
他说，「有啊。」
"How much you pay for that?"
「你们付多少钱？」
He said, "Whatever thirty rupees for the..."
他说，「大概三十卢比吧，为了那个……」
He said, "I get it free, look at my skin, it is soft as butter and I was doing nothing, I was just going through the mud bath. I think in city you people get it."
他说，「我这是免费的，看看我的皮肤，像黄油一样软，我什么都没做，我只是在享受泥浴。我想在城里你们这些人是要花钱的。」
He said, "How you know?"
他说，「你怎么知道？」
He said, "We ask them lot of money for this dirt they carry it here from trucks for preparing those mud baths."
他说，「我们向他们收很多钱，就为这些脏东西，他们用卡车运到这里来，用来做那些泥浴。」
He said, "This ploughing(plowing) and having a good crop next year is just extra."
他说，「这犁地，还有明年有个好收成，只是额外的收获。」
(Students' laughter)
（学生们大笑）
Do you understand that part of it? Work gives you commitment, commitment give you fulfillment, fulfillment give you happiness and happiness give you grace and grace give you the Divinity, the dignity and grace in itself, the feeling of it, the feeling of it. Otherwise, by doing this left and right business, this imaginary business, that if I don't have any work, I have lot of money, then I will be happy, nobody is happy that way.
你们明白这部分吗？工作给你承诺，承诺给你满足，满足给你快乐，快乐给你优雅，优雅给你神性、尊严，而优雅本身，那种感觉，那种感觉。否则，靠这种左一下右一下的勾当，这种凭空想象的勾当——以为如果我没有工作，我有很多钱，我就会快乐——没有人是这样快乐的。
'Iis Dehi Kho Simran Dey.'
「Iis Dehi Kho Simran Dey。」
The angels worship for this body. Iis Dehi, this body you got it through God's service Har Khe Sev, the purpose of this body is because you got it through the grace of God and worship of God, you should with this body, you should worship God and the worship of God is to the ecstasy of consciousness where you can remember Nam Chitavey. May God dwell in your remembrance. That is the highest state of human consciousness. When you remember God in your remembrance and in your remembrance when it is there then all other things are very shallow and unwanted by you, then you come out to be real and it is that reality which takes away the division of polarity or maya and set you free.
天使们为这个身体而礼拜。Iis Dehi，这个身体，你是通过服务神而得到的，Har Khe Sev，这个身体存在的目的，是因为你通过神的优雅和对神的礼拜而得到了它，你应该用这个身体去礼拜神，而对神的礼拜就是让意识进入狂喜，在那里你能记得 Nam Chitavey。愿神住在你的忆念里。那是人类意识的最高状态。当你在忆念里记得神，当它就在你的忆念里，那么其他一切对你来说都非常浅薄、都不再需要，那时你就活出真实，正是那份真实带走了二元对立或幻象的分裂，让你自由。
Your freedom is very, very important to you. By baboonery or by commotional drama or by emotional fluctuations or by flirtation, or having a flirtatious mind, you are not going to make anything. Nothing comprehensive can be achieved by you and the most important thing in your life is, how you look at things, what is the overall picture of life you take?
你的自由对你非常、非常重要。靠胡闹，靠情绪化的戏剧，靠情绪的起伏，靠调情，或者有一颗爱调情的心，你什么也做不成。你无法成就任何完整的东西，而你生命中最重要的事是：你如何看待事物，你把握的生命整体图景是什么？
Do you want in your life to be you or you want to be dependent. If you want to be dependent in your life, you are not going to be independent and independent does not mean that you are just free, there is no such thing free, if you are flying on aeroplane at thirty-three thousand feet and if somebody drops you and say you are free, in couple minutes you know what is going to happen to you. You need a parachute always to jump. You have to. You need a protection, a shield, a pad. Even this body, look at the cosmic law, this my body has a aura, that's my shield. Nothing God has made which doesn't have a protective aura around it and you need a protective aura. That's why we work, we work to provide ourself the protection.
在你的生命里，你想做你自己，还是想依赖别人？如果你在生命里想依赖，你就不会独立，而独立并不意味着你只是自由，根本没有那种自由这回事。如果你在三万三千英尺的高空飞着，有人把你扔下去，说你自由了，几分钟之内你就知道会发生什么。你跳的时候总需要降落伞。你必须要有。你需要保护，需要盾牌，需要护垫。就连这个身体，看看宇宙法则，我这个身体有能量圈，那就是我的盾牌。神所造的任何东西，周围都有保护性的能量圈，而你需要保护性的能量圈。这就是我们工作的原因，我们工作是为了给自己提供保护。
Work is a worship, accomplishment is happiness, work accomplished, job accomplished but in that there are values, higher values and lower values, do you work for higher values or you work for lower values. That is the only point of dispute or which are the higher values and which are not, this you can always check. Some people are so bad that they suffer and then they get into the suffering again. They get same, they repeat the same trauma again and again, it continuously go on without knowing whether what it means, where it will lead to them. So what they get is, they get into that trauma so deeply that they don't care what their teachers tell, what the teachings are and what commitment is, what change can be and how can they change for the better. All they care is to satisfy that phobia of that trauma in their personality. So what they do is they, they enacted drama around the trauma to befool the world. But actually they can't befool the world, they end up befooling themself. Because anything which is of higher consciousness shall, that is the first test of it, it shall demand sacrifice. It shall demand work, it shall demand sacrifice and it will be having a definitely one pointed pressure, these are certain signs of it. What did I say those three things?
工作就是崇拜，成就是幸福，工作完成了，任务完成了，但其中有价值，有高价值和低价值，你是为高价值工作，还是为低价值工作。这就是唯一的分歧点，或者哪些是高价值，哪些不是，这个你随时可以检验。有些人糟糕到受了苦，然后又陷入那苦里。他们得到同样的，他们一次又一次重复同样的创伤，它不停地继续下去，却不知道它意味着什么，会把他们引向哪里。所以他们得到的是，他们陷进那创伤那么深，以至于不在乎老师告诉他们什么，教义是什么，承诺是什么，改变可以是什么，他们怎样才能变得更好。他们只在乎满足自己人格里那个创伤的恐惧。所以他们做的，就是围绕那创伤演一出戏来愚弄世界。但实际上他们愚弄不了世界，最后愚弄的是自己。因为任何属于更高意识的东西，这是对它的第一个检验，它会要求牺牲。它会要求工作，它会要求牺牲，而且它会有一种明确的一心一意的压力，这些是它的一些标志。我说的是哪三件事？
Students: (----)
学生：（----）
YB: And it shall definitely have a definite discipline. Because there is nothing impossible but to begin with such things will give you a impossible goal to achieve, impossible performance to, it looks impossible and that is called challenge, fifth thing is?
YB：而且它一定有明确的纪律。因为没有什么是不可能的，但一开始这类东西会给你一个不可能达成的目标，不可能完成的表现，它看起来不可能，而这就叫挑战，第五件事是什么？
Students: Challenge.
学生：挑战。
YB: So repeat all these five things to me please.
YB：那请把这五件事都给我重复一遍。
Students: (----)
学生：（----）
YB: These are the symptoms of higher values and opposite to that are lower values. In relevant term a person is supposed to understand that when the values, these five values are looked into higher consciousness is achieved, when higher consciousness is achieved happiness dwells with in. When the happiness?
YB：这些是高价值的征兆，与之相反的就是低价值。用相关的话说，一个人应该明白，当这些价值，这五种价值被看清时，更高意识就达成了，当更高意识达成时，幸福就住在里面。当幸福？
Students: (----)
学生：（----）
YB: All right, think over it today and I am not going to teach you anything more. It's a very serious subject, I like to discuss in detail from you tomorrow, think about it and make your mind and make your comments and I like to have lot of questions on that, lot. Now you ask me question, is there any? Yes?
YB：好，今天好好想想，我不打算再教你们更多了。这是个很严肃的主题，我想明天和你们详细讨论，想一想，拿定主意，做出你们的评论，我希望有很多问题，很多。现在你们问我问题，有吗？请？
Student: What do you mean by elementary consciousness?
学生：你说的初级意识是什么意思？
YB: Elementary consciousness is called in simple word Christ consciousness or divine consciousness, it is elementary. There are elementary people, there are complementary and supplementary people, elementary people are those who redeem complementary and supplementary people to God consciousness, balloon, baboons and humans.
YB：初级的意识，简单说就叫基督意识或神性意识，它是初级的。有初级的人，有互补的人和补充的人，初级的人就是那些把互补的人和补充的人救赎到神的意识的人，气球、狒狒和人类。
Student: If you work in a higher consciousness, can you ever get burnt out?
学生：如果你在更高的意识里工作，你会不会耗尽自己？
YB: If you work in higher consciousness can you ever get burnt out? No, never, impossible. Higher consciousness is the flow of the spirit, you can never be burnt out. There maybe hard, there maybe pain, there maybe challenges but you can't be burnt out. Yes?
YB：如果你在更高的意识里工作，你会不会耗尽自己？不，永远不会，不可能。更高的意识是灵的流动，你永远不会耗尽。也许会有艰难，也许会有痛苦，也许会有挑战，但你不会耗尽。是吗？
Student: Could you please explain one pointed pressure?
学生：你能不能解释一下什么叫单点压力？
YB: One pointed pressure is, when you go swim opposite the current, the entire river pushes you backward and you push forward and that's called one point pressure. At that moment to survive or to achieve you have to put your total strength to go upward, you can learn it from that fish which goes up the river, what they call it?
YB：单点压力就是，当你逆着水流游泳时，整条河把你往后推，而你往前推，这就叫单点压力。那一刻，为了活下来或为了达成，你必须用上全部的力量往上走，你可以从那条逆流而上的鱼身上学到这一点，它叫什么来着？
Students: (----)
学生们：（----）
YB: Yeah, you all remember it, see. Yes?
YB：对，你们都记得它，看吧。是吗？
Student: (----)
学生：（----）
YB: What she said?
YB：她说了什么？
Student: (----)
学生：（----）
YB: Now let me first listen to this question, I will come to you meanwhile you read the question, yeah what is it?
YB：现在让我先听这个问题，我一会儿再到你那儿，你同时把问题读出来，好，是什么？
Student: (----)
学生：（----）
YB: It is outside because outside pressure you only feel because you are not very sure and confident inside. Outside pressure you can never feel, suppose I am very confident about myself, what do I care who says what? I will only care when I do not know what I am doing, then I like to have opinions. I mean to say, I walk out like this in rotary club anywhere. I don't think that it doesn't matter but for somebody God, tie and suit and drama and trauma and whole thing and they walk in very special way, I do not know what, what they want to achieve and I do not know what I lose, I make joke with everybody there. I am very casual in life, you know there is nothing when you reach the plateau, that's it, what do you care? What pressure? Who can insult you? I mean to say, what more they can say against me? Which already has not been said in these ten years, what more can be said. Now it is time to, people will say good things. I was reading one chapter of that commemorate volume of mine, I never knew that I am that holy.
YB：它是外在的，因为外在的压力你之所以能感觉到，只是因为你内心不太确定、不太自信。外在的压力你永远感觉不到，假设我对自己非常有信心，我干嘛在乎谁说什么？我只会在不知道自己正在做什么的时候才在乎，那时我才喜欢听别人的意见。我的意思是，我就这样走进扶轮社，随便什么地方。我不觉得这有什么要紧，但对某些人来说，神啊，领带、西装、戏剧、创伤，一整套东西，他们走进来方式特别，我不知道他们想达成什么，我也不知道我失去了什么，我在那儿跟每个人开玩笑。我在生活里很随意，你知道，当你到达那个平台，就那样了，你还在乎什么？什么压力？谁能侮辱你？我的意思是，他们还能说我什么坏话？这十年里还没说过的，还能说什么。现在是时候了，人们会说好话了。我在读我那本纪念文集里的一章，我从来不知道我那么神圣。
(Students' laughter)
（学生们大笑）
Sure I never knew, it was a wonderful. I mean to say, that, that commemorated volume may not do any good to you but God if you really want to do something to your parents, just hand it over, that will do it. I mean to say, everything has been documented said, supported and there in a very American fashion. And something which we can give it to our children, this is the man we knew. If it has no value, it has this value, this is the man we knew, that's enough. Yes?
当然，我从来不知道，它太美妙了。我的意思是说，那本纪念文集对你也许没什么用，但神啊，如果你真想为父母做点什么，就把它交出去，那就够了。我的意思是说，一切都记录在案、有说法、有支持，而且是非常美国式的方式。还有一样东西，我们可以传给我们的孩子，这就是我们认识的那个人。如果它没有别的价值，它至少有这个价值，这就是我们认识的那个人，这就够了。好吗？
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YB: Because insecurity, insecurity, insecurity is cause of every movement because once we become secure, then we become the hub and nucleus of the entire magnetic wavelength then everything is there, then we don't need anything. Unloved people are always very insecure and unloved people are not who are loved you can be loved physically but if you are not loved spiritually, you are very unloved. Physical love, what we are trying to do is, we are substituting the physical love for the spiritual love. What they call? Plato, Plato, Platorian love what they call?
YB：因为不安全感，不安全感，不安全感是一切活动的起因，因为一旦我们变得安全，我们就成了整个磁性波长的中心和核心，那时一切都在那里，那时我们什么都不需要。不被爱的人总是非常没有安全感，而不被爱的人并不是那些被爱的人——你在肉体上可以被爱，但如果你在灵性上不被爱，你就是非常不被爱的。肉体之爱，我们试图做的是，用肉体之爱替代灵性之爱。他们怎么说的？柏拉图，柏拉图，他们说的那种柏拉图式的爱叫什么？
Students: Platonic love.
学生们：柏拉图式的爱。
YB: Platonic love. For platonic love we substitute the physical love and that's the wrong we are committing on this planet. We need that platonic love more than because that is the love which can reach our soul, physical love is hugs and kiss and bugs and huhuh, not going to make it. If somebody tells me I am very beautiful, I am great and just say beautiful word in my praise for one hour, all I can say him thank you. But if somebody can give me experience, all I can say is, thank you, oh, it's wonderful, it's beautiful but question is how I will project that greatness and if I can't do it, I am doomed.
YB：柏拉图式的爱。我们用肉体之爱替代柏拉图式的爱，这就是我们在这个星球上犯的错。我们更需要那种柏拉图式的爱，因为那是能抵达我们灵魂的爱，肉体之爱是拥抱、亲吻、纠缠和哼哼，成不了事。如果有人告诉我我很美、我很了不起，用美言赞美我一个钟头，我只能对他说谢谢。但如果有人能给我体验，我只能说，谢谢，哦，太美妙了，太美了，但问题是我要怎样把那份伟大投射出去，如果我做不到，我就完了。
You know what is the situation of that thing, a person is awfully hungry, awfully hungry and somebody serves him a food in a cage, steel hot steel cage, tell him to eat it. He knows it is hot, it is smelling, it is beautiful, he can't tear off the cage, he can't eat it and I have seen people, I have seen people doing that, what they did put, they put meat in a very powerful cage, which has lot of awful claws and these wolves come, hungry wolves, they stampede to that place and they will fight with that cage and it is made to be like a kind of a goat or something but those things in that tear up their claws and they bleed to death and wolf is not a ordinary animal and that is how you have a duality. Because this physical, what is a physical love is true, if this all the sex whatever you think is true, then how you will live when you are eighty, ninety, when you have no sexual urge? What you will do then?
你知道那东西的处境是什么吗，一个人饿得要命，饿得要命，有人把食物放在一个笼子里端给他，滚烫的钢笼子，叫他吃。他知道它烫，它香，它好看，他撕不开那笼子，他吃不到，我见过这样的人，我见过人这么干，他们干了什么，他们把肉放进一个非常坚固的笼子里，那笼子有很多可怕的爪子，那些狼来了，饿狼，它们冲向那个地方，跟那个笼子搏斗，那笼子做得像一只山羊什么的，可那些东西在里面把爪子都撕烂了，流血而死，狼不是普通的动物，二元对立就是这么来的。因为这个肉体，所谓的肉体之爱是真的吗，如果这一切性啊什么的，你以为是真的，那你八十岁、九十岁的时候怎么活，当你没有性欲的时候？那时候你怎么办？
I don't care, when you are eighteen you can do, sixteen times a day, good luck to you but what about when you are eighty, how you will live then? That's why in old age, you will see people very miserable because they do not have that platonic love that real that elementary love of their concept is not right, they are not well directed, they don't have experience of God, they do not have this concession, Ang Sang Wahe Guru and then they become very lonely. I mean sometime I feel really it is my personal experience don't, I act differently because that's my job as a teacher but who wants whom and for what? You are pretty self-contained, God made you in His own image, you don't see it that is your problem. Yes?
我不在乎，你十八岁的时候可以一天干十六次，祝你好运，可你八十岁的时候呢，那时候你怎么活？所以到了老年，你会看到人们非常悲惨，因为他们没有那种柏拉图式的爱，那种真正的、那种基本的爱，他们的概念不对，他们没有好的引导，他们没有对神的体验，他们没有这个加持，Ang Sang Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo，然后他们变得非常孤独。我是说有时候我觉得，这真的是我的个人经验，别，我表现得不一样，因为那是我作为老师的职责，可谁想要谁，为了什么？你本身相当自足，神按祂自己的形象造了你，你看不到，那是你的问题。是吧？
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YB: What's that?
YB：什么？
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YB: No, no, no, live in comforts, to do certain works, if you have to go to Espanola, you may walk but if you have to go to Santa Fe everyday, you need a car. Comfort and requirement of things are relevant term but if you want to go to Espanola on foot and you want to go Santa Fe on a elephant, I mean you are crazy.
YB：不，不，不，生活在舒适里，去做某些事，如果你要去Espanola，你可以走路，可如果你每天都要去Santa Fe，你需要一辆车。舒适和对东西的需求是相对的说法，可如果你想步行去Espanola，想骑大象去Santa Fe，我是说，你疯了。
(Students' laughter)
（学生们大笑）
It takes you one day and a half to even reach there on a elephant. You know what I am talking about? For some people certain things are luxuries and with the same things for other people is totally necessity. So you have to choose what is your luxury and what is your necessity, you must have all the necessities, if you cannot have any luxury. Luxury is something which you have which you can give, you can spare, you can share, necessity is which is just for your own maintenance. Yes?
你要骑大象走一天半才能到那儿。你知道我在说什么吗？对某些人来说，某些东西是奢侈，而同样的东西对另一些人来说完全是必需。所以你必须选择什么是你的奢侈，什么是你的必需，必需你都得有，奢侈可以没有。奢侈是你拥有的、可以给出去、可以省下来、可以分享的东西，必需只是维持你自己用的。对吧？
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YB: Through, if you behave gracefully, if once you can give this impression how that, you are a graceful person, nothing wrong can come to you. That is a requirement, that's the work you have to do.
YB：通过，如果你举止优雅，如果你能给人这种印象，你是个优雅的人，什么坏事都到不了你身上。那是必需的，那是你必须做的功课。
Student: Sir in Ardas everyday we say, after worshiping the Adi Shakti, how don you worship the Adi Shakti?
学生：先生，在每天的Ardas里我们说，在敬拜Aad Shakti之后，你怎么敬拜Aad Shakti？
YB: That is the primal force, that one.
YB：那就是原初的力量，那一个。
Student: It's also female energy.
学生：它也是女性能量。
YB: Yeah.
YB：对。
Student: How do we worship it?
学生：我们怎么敬拜它？
YB: Gobindey, Mukandey, Udharey, Apaarey, Hariying Karying Nirnamey, Akamey, isn't not in everyday's prayer of us?
YB：Gobindey，Mukandey，Udharey，Apaarey，Hariying Karying Nirnamey，Akamey，不就在我们每天的祈祷里吗？
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YB: No, no, no, no, no, no, we just keep the males happy, it's not male.
YB：不，不，不，不，不，不，我们只是让男性高兴，它不是男性。
(Students' laughter)
（学生们笑）
Guru Gayatri, Gayatri is a female word itself. Male, male what? Mail is in the post office.
Guru Gayatri，Gayatri本身就是个阴性词。男性，男性什么？Mail（邮件）在邮局里。
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YB: Oh ask every male, is there any male without female energy direct or indirect that I am not discussing. Aad Guray Nameh, Aad is female, Guray is the male Nameh is the bow. Jugad Guray Nameh, time is again female creativity. Sat Guray Nameh, Sat, Sat is again female, Siri is absolutely female. What do you want to do? I don't want to teach the Sikhs will get upset because they are more maleish, religion is very clear. Yeah?
YB：哦，去问每个男性，有没有哪个男性没有直接或间接的女性能量，这个我不讨论。Aad Guray Nameh，Aad是阴性，Guray是阳性，Nameh是顶礼。Jugad Guray Nameh，时间又是阴性的创造力。Sat Guray Nameh，Sat，Sat又是阴性，Siri绝对是阴性。你想怎么办？我不想教，锡克教徒会不高兴，因为他们更男性化，宗教是很清楚的。对吧？
Student: I noticed that you are saying, Hariying Karying and you teach us by saying Haring, Karying, I wanted to know why?
学生：我注意到你说Hariying Karying，而你教我们时说Haring，Karying，我想知道为什么？
YB: I do lot of things.
YB：我做很多事。
(Students' laughter)
（学生们笑）
Student: Which one is right?
学生：哪个是对的？
YB: Whatever you can read, but I have read in the scriptures, you know what is the matter of pronunciation in Gurmukhi you pronounce it different in Sanskrit you pronounce, Sanskrit pronunciation is Hariying Karying, this is Sanskrit pronunciation because it is in the Nad Hariying Karying in Guru Gayatri is correct also. So I sometime mess up my Sanskrit knowledge with my Hindi and with my, this knowledge with that even, you know I have many facets. Do what I tell you to do, don't do what I do.
YB：你能读哪个就读哪个，但我在经典里读到过，你知道发音这回事，在Gurmukhi里你发一个音，在梵文里你发另一个音，梵文发音是Hariying Karying，这是梵文发音，因为它在Naad里，Hariying Karying在Guru Gayatri里也是对的。所以我有时把我的梵文知识跟我的印地语混在一起，跟我的，这个知识跟那个也混在一起，你知道我有很多刻面。照我告诉你的去做，别照我做的去做。
(Students' laughter)
（学生们笑）
Haha, what haha? Yeah?
哈哈，笑什么？对吧？
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YB: Yeah and he lies on her Sikh bed, have you seen those people, rich people with twenty pillows on the back, twenty telephones around the bed, ten secretary standing, telling sir, sir, sir and there is a one attendant who opens the eyes and say, "Sir, this is Yogi Bhajan."
YB：是啊，他躺在她的锡克床上，你见过那些人吗，有钱人，背后垫二十个枕头，床边围着二十部电话，十个秘书站着，一个劲地说，先生，先生，先生，还有一个随从负责睁开眼说：「先生，这位是Yogi Bhajan。」
He say, "Oh thank you." And he does that. These are those people who never worked for all what they got?
他说：「哦，谢谢你。」然后他就那样做。这些人就是那些从来没为自己得到的一切付出过努力的人吗？
Student: When you chant Gurbani and you vibrate the sound through the tongue, it has an effect, what is the effect, is there any difference in the effect when you mentally chant because you are not similar in the meridian points.
学生：当你唱诵Gurbani，用舌头振动声音，它会产生效果，那是什么效果？如果你在心里默念，效果有区别吗？因为经脉点不一样。
YB: Same thing if your mentally concentrate on the third eye or you stimulate with the tongue properly does the same thing. There is no big difference, whether it is Bekhri or it's Kant or it is Hriday or it is Ajana or it is Anhad, it's the same thing, it is a, you know these people who know one little thing, they make it so complicated and so great for telling you but if you look at the whole thing, it's the same thing. What is this Judaism and Christianity and Sikhism and Hinduism and Buddhism and Taoism and Daoism and yeah, I am married (?), it's a way to God, there are twenty-three freeways, catch anyone but question is which one and be on it. Yeah?
YB：一样的，如果你在心里专注第三眼，或者用舌头正确地刺激，效果是一样的。没有多大区别，不管是Bekhri、Kant、Hriday、Ajana还是Anhad，都是一回事，它是——你知道，那些只懂一点点的人，会把它弄得特别复杂、特别了不起地讲给你听，但如果你看整体，它就是同一回事。什么犹太教、基督教、锡克教、印度教、佛教、道教、Daoism，还有，对，我结婚了（？），都是通往神的路，有二十三条高速公路，随便上哪一条，但问题是哪一条，然后你就上路。对吧？
Student: Yeah, you said that the elementary consciousness and there is no need for concession, how...
学生：对，你说过那个基本意识，不需要让步，怎么……
YB: But there is no concession.
YB：但就是没有让步。
Student: And there is no concession?
学生：就是没有让步？
YB: There is no concession, in love and in elementary consciousness there is no concession. (?), there is no concession.
YB：没有让步，在爱里、在基本意识里没有让步。（？），没有让步。
Student: Then how would you differentiate between concession and compromise?
学生：那你怎么区分让步和妥协？
YB: There is no comprise, in love do you see compromise? When that girl of your you discuss she talk, you talk to her all wisdom and that foolish blind girl told you one word, I love him. There is only one way that she get ruined by him and then she will know that she was wrong. That's why they say love is blind, you did your best, you did as a sister, you did as a experience person, you did out of concern, you did out of compassion, you did out of whatever it was and when you reached her heart in her head, all she said to you, no, I am no more (?). He may not know what love is but she thinks because she is blind. In love you can be totally blind either way, in elementary consciousness, you can only be blind to one way and that is the higher way, that's the difference between the two, I could have used the word love. Love can go exactly to the Earth and to the ether with the same force but elementary consciousness absolutely has only one direction and that is Infinity, it won't touch the finite. Anything you heard, and you feel about Infinity is because of the concept of the elementary nature in you, there is no concession.
YB：没有妥协，在爱里你看到妥协了吗？当你跟你的那个女孩谈，她说话，你把所有智慧都讲给她听，那个愚蠢又盲目的女孩只对你说了一句话：我爱他。她只有一条路，就是被他毁掉，然后她才会知道自己错了。所以人们说爱是盲目的。你尽了全力，你像姐妹一样做，你像一个有经验的人一样做，你出于关心去做，你出于慈悲去做，你出于不管什么去做，当你触到她的心、她的头脑，她对你说的一切就是：不，我不再（？）。他也许不知道爱是什么，但她认为她知道，因为她是盲目的。在爱里，你完全可能两个方向都盲目；在初级的意识里，你只能对一个方向盲目，那就是更高的方向，这就是两者的区别，我本来可以用「爱」这个词。爱可以以同样的力量直直地走向大地，也走向以太，但初级的意识绝对只有一个方向，那就是无限，它不会碰有限。你听到的、你对无限感受到的一切，都是因为你内在初级本性的概念，没有让步。
What is the concession everyday I am aging, what concession I can have? All I can do is, I can remain healthy, look ten years younger or ten year older, that's all and that doesn't make difference at all. There is no concessions, you know it is a very funny thing God is merciful, God is this, I want to keep God that way, God is merciful, God is nice, God is beautiful, God is everything but whom they have to give you the concession and when you ask them, there is no concession, they said, oh yeah, mother nature has no concession. So put down the woman, then use the word Mother Nature.
什么是让步？每天我都在变老，我能有什么让步？我能做的只是保持健康，看起来年轻十岁或老十岁，就这样，那根本没什么区别。没有让步。你知道，有件很好笑的事：神是慈悲的，神是这个，我想让神保持那样——神是慈悲的，神是好的，神是美的，神是一切——但该给你让步的是谁？当你去问他们，没有让步，他们说，哦对，大自然母亲没有让步。所以先把女人放下，然后用「大自然母亲」这个词。
Basically you don't have any concession to yourself, you cause a cause and you create the effect then you have to go through the effect, there is absolutely no concession, nothing. I mean to say, it is just totally hallucination. People think somebody take drugs, I said, no, everybody is drugged. They have to wake up, they are sleeping, they are crazy. It is not much to love, it is not much to go through it is, it is nothing, it is a simple thing. Cause shall have a effect, equal and... Newton third law of force, every action has reaction equal and opposite, that's law of Newton third law of force, right? You know and that is law of Karma and that is law of action and reaction and that is called Avagavan, the whole science. There is no concession.
基本上，你对自己没有任何让步。你种下一个因，你造出一个果，然后你就得经历那个果，绝对没有让步，什么都没有。我的意思是，这完全是幻觉。人们以为有人在吸毒，我说，不，每个人都被下了药。他们得醒来，他们在睡觉，他们疯了。去爱并不难，去经历也不难，它什么都不是，它是件简单的事。因必有果，相等而且……牛顿第三定律，每一个作用力都有大小相等、方向相反的反作用力，这就是牛顿第三定律，对吧？你知道，这就是业力法则，这就是作用与反作用的法则，这就叫 Avagavan，整套科学。没有让步。
You will get a human life, you will meet a teacher, you will confirm to him, you will be liberated. Now you miss a teacher, you are gone and what teacher can tell you? Nothing, he will tell you this is your destiny and you say, no, you are doomed. Where is concession? Where teacher converts you, where teacher changes you, nowhere it is you and you alone. I have not seen concession anywhere. In every aspect of life, you have to come through and why not to come through to begin with? Have you seen, if you don't work, don't they fire you, they hire you, they fire you because of work, if you deliver the goods, you are hire, you don't deliver the goods, you are fire, you deliver the goods you are darling, you are not delivering the goods, you are okay, you are this, you are bitch, you are this, God knows what they say. It's a ridiculous to even think, that without doing something, you are going to get anything, nothing.
你会得到人身，你会遇到一位老师，你会向他确认，你就会解脱。现在你错过一位老师，你就完了，哪个老师能告诉你什么？什么也告诉不了，他会告诉你这是你的命运，你说，不，你注定完了。哪里有让步？哪里有老师转化你，哪里有老师改变你，哪里都没有，只有你，只有你一个人。我在任何地方都没见过让步。在生活的每一个面向，你都得自己闯过去，那为什么不从一开始就闯过去？你见过吗，如果你不干活，他们不就把你解雇了吗，他们雇你，他们因为工作解雇你，如果你交出成果，你就被雇用，你不交出成果，你就被解雇，你交出成果你就是宝贝，你不交出成果，你就不行，你就是这个，你就是贱货，你就是这个，天知道他们说什么。甚至想一想都觉得可笑，不做点什么，你就能得到什么，什么也得不到。
I walked with my beard, I walk like this and it is all happened to me, some people think I am a fraud, some people think I am a God. Let people think between God and fraud, why should I think? Why anybody should think between fraud and God? Because neither there is any fraud, nor there is any God, it is as it is. It is at the level of those who see God in me, they will always see God in me, those who see fraud in me, they will always get into frauds. That's why, I tell people don't make me mad. If you can't make me happy, it's fine. Because essence of life is essential in life to understand that life is to live and if you live it righteously, you will be righteous all around, if you don't, you will mess up then there will be a mess around. We are not asking anybody to do anything, all we are saying, get rid of mess. Oh the Catholic Church used to say, don't get into a mess, get into a mass.
我留着胡子走路，我就这样走，这一切都发生在我身上，有些人觉得我是个骗子，有些人觉得我是神。让人们去想神还是骗子吧，我为什么要去想？为什么任何人都要在骗子和神之间去想？因为既没有骗子，也没有神，它就是它本来的样子。那些在我身上看见神的人，他们永远会在我身上看见神，那些在我身上看见骗子的人，他们永远会陷进骗局里。所以，我告诉人们，别把我弄疯。如果你不能让我开心，那也没关系。因为生命的本质在生命中至关重要，要明白生命就是要活出来，如果你正法地活它，你周围的一切都会是正法的，如果你不这样活，你就会搞砸，然后周围就会一团糟。我们没有要求任何人做任何事，我们只是说，把混乱清理掉。哦，天主教会过去常说，别陷进混乱，去参加弥撒。
They used to say, good things, they have forgotten everything these days. And somebody told me in France, the French people go to Church thrice. Once they are born, once they are married and once they are dead. Yeah?
他们过去说些好话，这些日子他们把一切都忘了。有人在法国告诉我，法国人去教堂三次。一次是他们出生时，一次是他们结婚时，一次是他们死的时候。是吧？
Student: Can you explain the purpose of marriage, sir?
学生：先生，你能解释一下婚姻的目的是什么吗？
YB: Purpose of marriage is to fulfill the challenge of polarity of the male for purposes of that male should be considered to be found out to be honest, protective, provider and conscious person, a Dharmic person in two words. Yeah, doctor I listen.
YB：婚姻的目的是完成男性二元对立的挑战，为的是那个男性应该被认为是诚实、保护、供养和有意识的人，用两个词说，一个正法的人。好，医生，我听着。
Student: (----)
学生：（----）
YB: We will continue to work with people because people is the grass root and if once you get into the higher institution, you have to always forget the grass root and there is always a trouble. We will learn from the mistake of the Catholic Church but do we do want all their wealth.
YB：我们会继续和人们一起工作，因为人们是草根，一旦你进入更高的机构，你就总得忘掉草根，麻烦就总是出在这里。我们会从天主教堂的错误中学习，但我们是不是真想要他们所有的财富呢。
(Students' laughter)
（学生们笑）
We want their wealth and organization, we need it badly but we are not going to do one thing, we are not going to become papas and forget about people, that was the only mistake Catholic Church did and that was the blunder and that happened so bad, I can tell you the (?) Catholic Church defeat in Mexico. In Mexico a padre or the priest, cannot walk and give a sermon in the street without paying a fine. Because they got involved with the Government, actually they became government. So (?) has came took it over everything and just, they will say, wait a minute, all church property belongs to the people and therefore belong to the government, to peoples government and they didn't do anything wrong because already it was a government by itself.
我们想要他们的财富和组织，我们非常需要它，但有一件事我们不会做，我们不会变成神父然后忘掉人们，那是天主教堂唯一犯的错误，那是大错，而且后果非常糟糕，我可以告诉你（？）天主教堂在墨西哥的失败。在墨西哥，一个神父或牧师，不能在街上走着布道而不交罚款。因为他们跟政府搅在一起，实际上他们自己变成了政府。所以（？）来了，把一切都接管了，他们就会说，等一下，所有教会财产都属于人民，因此属于政府，属于人民的政府，而他们并没有做错什么，因为它本来就已经是一个政府了。
You have a choice and religion to work with people I had a choice too, why to talk of the Church, I tell you myself, they told me, they will promote me to a worth of fifteen million dollar guarantee in three years and they will send off a corporation bah, bah, bah, I had a choice to work with those guys and get into this maya or to get with people, I chose to get with people. Because anything which will work with people and truth will be succeeded because that is elementary.
你有选择，宗教要和人们一起工作，我也有选择，为什么要说教会呢，我自己告诉你，他们跟我说，他们会在三年内把我提拔到有一千五百万美元保证的位子，他们会送出一家公司，吧啦吧啦吧啦，我有选择去跟那些人一起干，进入这个幻象，或者去跟人们在一起，我选择跟人们在一起。因为任何跟人们一起工作又带着真理的东西都会成功，因为那是根本的。
Student: (----)
学生：（----）
YB: Who?
YB：谁？
Students: Numerology.
学生们：数字学。
YB: Oh I learnt it, it's a good science provided you know it. All sciences are good if you know them. May the longtime...
YB：哦，我学过，只要你懂它，它就是一门好科学。所有的科学，只要你懂，都是好的。愿那长久的……
(Students singing, 'May the longtime sunshine upon you...')
（学生们唱：「愿那长久阳光照耀着你……」）
Hey where is my God?
嘿，我的神在哪儿？
(Students stop singing)
（学生们停止唱歌）
... We are going to give our friend governor the choice, either he comes here Monday and have dinner with us or we will go to the capital and give him a dinner or he give us a dinner. What we are going to do is, I have an appointment with him anyway, I wanted to go and say, "Hi to him."
……我们要给我们的朋友州长一个选择，要么他周一来这里跟我们一起吃晚饭，要么我们去首府请他吃晚饭，要么他请我们吃晚饭。我们要做的是，反正我跟他有个约，我想去跟他说声「嗨」。
And he called up today he said, "Oh you are a friend why you want appointment? When I am in town come in, I want to hear your voice."
他今天打电话来说：「哦，你是朋友，干嘛还要约？我在城里的时候你就来，我想听听你的声音。」
I said, "You look good of it."
我说：「你看起来挺得意啊。」
"I know, I got caught totally unprepared so, I put Harihar on line."
「我知道，我完全没准备就被逮住了，所以我把 Harihar 拉上线了。」
And I said, "Well, look you have to come."
我说：「好吧，你看，你得来。」
He said, "I love to let us see the appointment, so what we are going to do is, on Dutch basis..."
他说：「我很乐意，咱们看看约的时间，所以我们要做的是，按荷兰制……」
(Students' laughter)
（学生们笑）
Anybody from Netherland here?
这里有从荷兰来的人吗？
Students: Yes.
学生：有。
(Students' laughter)
（学生笑声）
YB: Okay, on Dutch...
YB：好，用荷兰语……
Side B
B 面
... Well something like that, Harihar is going to call the secretary and going to make the arrangements but it will be a fun to go and visit, it's a beautiful capital. I mean to say, there are two beautiful places here which are very artistically made, one is the capital building It is a one building which is round. You will never find a capital building anywhere, there is a dome over it and round and everything but buildings are always like, he, she or pie, square and all that, this is only one capital in United States and all the fifty states, that, that's round and it inside it is very artistic. Have you seen this Albuquerque airport? How artistic the main entrance is and that lounge is? Exactly that way. There is a restaurant there at Albuquerque airport, it is called Kanchina Inn or something whatever it is. Had, how many have eaten there? It's a far-out salad for two dollars or something you can fill in for yourself for a week or so.
……嗯，差不多就是这样，Harihar 会打电话给秘书，然后去安排，但去那里看看会很好玩，那是个美丽的首府。我是说，这里有两个很美的地方，做得很艺术，一个是首府大楼，它是一栋圆形的建筑。你在别的地方绝对找不到这样的首府大楼，上面有个圆顶，圆圆的，什么都圆，可别的建筑总是像，他、她或者饼一样，方方正正那一套，全美国五十个州里只有这一座首府是圆的，而且里面非常艺术。你见过阿尔伯克基机场吗？正门和那个休息厅做得多艺术？完全就是那样。阿尔伯克基机场那里有家餐厅，叫 Kanchina Inn 还是什么，反正就是那个。有，有多少人在那儿吃过？那沙拉很特别，两块钱左右，你自己装，够你吃一个星期左右。
(Students' laughter)
（学生笑声）
But it's very beautifully decorated very comfortable. Guru Nam Kaur? Oh your husband has the pleasure to talk to me today, he feels well. I am obligated to tell you that he is happy.
但它装饰得非常漂亮，非常舒服。Guru Nam Kaur？哦，你丈夫今天有幸跟我说话了，他感觉很好。我有义务告诉你，他很开心。
(Students' laughter)
（学生笑声）
And he is happy because you are happy. You are going to meet him in Los Angeles or... Well, you will have a fun. Take him to Disneyland because all children go to Disneyland.
他开心，因为你开心。你要去洛杉矶见他，还是……嗯，你会玩得很开心。带他去迪士尼乐园，因为所有孩子都去迪士尼乐园。
(Students' laughter)
（学生笑声）
You know three things when a woman doesn't do, she forgets that her husband is a child, she forgets her husband is a Bazurk, what is that translation of Bazurk?
你知道有三件事，女人要是不做，她就会忘了她丈夫是个孩子，她忘了她丈夫是个 Bazurk，Bazurk 翻译成什么？
Students: (----)
学生：（----）
YB: Old man is not the translation of Bazurk.
YB：老人不是 Bazurk 的翻译。
Students: (----)
学生：（----）
YB: No, no. What you will call a very wise grandpa ways which you have nothing, which does not show the age.
YB：不，不。你会怎么称呼一位非常有智慧的祖父级人物，那种你身上没有的、看不出年龄的？
Students: (----)
学生：（----）
YB: Elder is elder, elder, you know, English word Bazurk, what is the?
YB：长者就是长者，长者，你知道，英文词 Bazurk，是什么？
Student: (----)
学生：（----）
YB: No.
YB：不。
(Students' laughter)
（学生笑声）
Jasbheer what you call?
Jasbheer，你怎么叫？
Student: (----)
学生：（----）
YB: Yeah Bazurk E Allah, that's what people in Moslem countries Guru Nanak is named as Bazurk E Allah, I mean to say, graceful man, right?
YB：对，Bazurk E Allah，在穆斯林国家人们就是这样称呼 Guru Nanak 的，Bazurk E Allah，我是说，优雅的人，对吧？
Students: (----)
学生：（----）
YB: Sage, sage kind of a thing, yeah.
YB：智者，圣人那一类，对。
Students: (----)
学生：（----）
YB: Yeah between the sage, sage minus age and minus age between the sage and child, you understand these two faculties. The link between a sage and a child is a woman, so I was asked a question today, who asked me, why, why, why, why woman wants to marry, if she is self-creative and if that is that? Oh I read that in teachings of Yogi Bhajan that question where are you? Sixty-four days, sixty-four years or sixty, it is a, it is a average age granted on this planet Earth in these years and that's what we calculated. Took different life spans of countries and calculated, that's what it is. Idealistically you are granted a x-amount of age and then you go back and you know that will happen? What was the page of teaching of Yogi Bhajan?
YB：是的，在圣人和孩子之间，圣人减去年龄，再减去年龄，在圣人和孩子之间，你明白这两种能力。圣人和孩子之间的连接是一个女人，所以今天有人问了我一个问题，谁问我的，为什么，为什么，为什么，为什么女人想要结婚，如果她是有自我创造力的，如果那就是那样？哦，我在 Yogi Bhajan 的教导里读到过那个问题，你在哪儿？64 天，64 年或 60，它是，它是这些年在这个星球地球上被给予的平均年龄，那就是我们计算出来的。取了不同国家不同的寿命来计算，就是这样。理想化地说，你被给予了一定量的年龄，然后你回去，你知道那会发生吗？Yogi Bhajan 教导的那一页是什么？
Student: (----)
学生：（----）
YB: What 263, yeah, I read it.
YB：什么 263，是的，我读到了。
(Students' laughter)
（学生们大笑）
Do you, do you want to know a fact?
你，你想知道一个事实吗？
Students: Yes.
学生们：想。
YB: When teachings of Yogi Bhajan has jewels, rubies and pearls, that was the first title of it and this book is very small, this whole thing is leather bound book, almost this thick, it has I think two times, three time more than what it is there, were given to me to, given to me, I read it and I said, it's a far-out thing, who, whose work is this?
YB：当《Yogi Bhajan 的教导》里有珠宝、红宝石和珍珠时，那是它最初的书名，而这本书很小，这整个东西是皮面装订的书，差不多这么厚，它里面有我想是这里的两倍、三倍多的内容，被交给我，交给我，我读了它，我说，这是个很超前的东西，谁，这是谁的作品？
(Students' laughter)
（学生们大笑）
And it's a truth and he said, "Sir, it has your quotations."
而这是真的，他说：「先生，里面有你的引语。」
I said, "My quotation, are you kidding?"
我说：「我的引语，你在开玩笑吗？」
He said, "Well, that is a fact."
他说：「嗯，这是事实。」
So I said, "Please bound them down and give it to me sometime, I will read them." That is how first time I got aware of it and I liked them so much, then I thought it is better they are published. The publishing company liked it so much but they wanted my permission to reduce it because they thought that way it will be a huge big book. And yesterday I stole some copies which were given to Jasbheer Kaur for translating the commemorative volume into, into Punjabi version of it and I never saw that and I read few pages, I didn't believe that the poems and all those things, which I have ever said are mine but they are far-out, they (?) it.
所以我说：「请把它们装订起来，找个时间给我，我会读一读。」我就是这样第一次意识到它，我非常喜欢它们，然后我想，把它们出版出来更好。出版公司非常喜欢它，但他们想要我允许他们删减，因为他们觉得那样它会是一本巨大的书。昨天我偷了几本，那些是给 Jasbheer Kaur 用来把纪念卷翻译成，翻译成旁遮普语版本的，我从未见过那个，我读了几页，我不相信那些诗和所有那些东西，我说过的竟然是我的，但它们很超前，它们（？）它。
(Students' laughter)
（学生们大笑）
They are great and the definition of my horoscope which I gave, I mean to say, there is no astrologer which can beat me on this planet ever, I surpass the limit. It's a fun, it's a fun to see that those things I have said in these ten years. There was a one little poem which I liked the most, it was wonderful, highly effective and there is a definition of Siri Singh Sahib and Yogi Bhajan and Harbhajan Singh, that was a real, real, cracky thing I couldn't believe it.
它们很了不起，我给出的那份星盘定义，我是说，这个星球上永远没有哪个占星师能在这上面胜过我，我超出了极限。看着这十年来我说过的那些东西，真是有趣，真是有趣。有一首小诗我最喜欢，它很美妙，极其有力，里面还有对 Siri Singh Sahib、Yogi Bhajan 和 Harbhajan Singh 的定义，那真是、真是绝妙的东西，我简直不敢相信。
(Students' laughter)
（学生们大笑）
It's funny. It is funny the Sat Kirpal Kaur could remember so many things and Premka could dig out so many things, it is just unbelievable. I mean to say, can you believe that, almost in ten years every word I have said is on a tape and you know sometime they will dig it out and they will find and you all will be shocked that those things were said, when you all were alive, you never bothered about it. Yeah, there were lot of things which are unbelievable in that, and I saw about few pages only.
真好笑。真好笑，Sat Kirpal Kaur 能记得那么多东西，Premka 能挖出那么多东西，简直难以置信。我是说，你能相信吗，差不多十年里我说过的每一个字都录在磁带上，你知道有一天他们会把它挖出来，他们会找到，你们全都会震惊，那些话确实说过，当时你们都还活着，却从没在意过。是啊，那里面有很多难以置信的东西，而我只看了几页。
It is four hundred and fifty pages and do you want to know why, why we sat for one year to make this project? I tell you why? What is happening is we may not have that image of a Siri Singh Sahib, who is a head priest of this organization called Panth Khalsa which is a ordained ministry of the Sikh Dharma. But our children do, our children have a very great affiliation to that person. What happened was that some people in Indian lobby wanted to destroy that image, they thought that if the Americans and the American children relate to Siri Singh Sahib and the ordained ministry of it and thus that way they relate to Siri Guru Granth, then there is no place for the middleman, there will not be second class citizen and we realize it too that if we will not have ordained ministry and we will not have secretariat and we will not organize our ownself by our ownself then we always be dependent and directed and used and misused for many reasons. So we started building it up and they started turning around and pinpointing mistakes and this and that and slanderous propaganda started going and but we were clever, we got held way ahead. To a commoner we gave the teachings of Yogi Bhajan. To a meat eater we gave the Golden Temple conscious cookery book.
它有四百五十页，你想知道为什么吗，为什么我们坐了一年做这个项目？我告诉你为什么。现在的情况是，我们可能没有 Siri Singh Sahib 的那个形象——他是这个叫 Panth Khalsa 的组织的大祭司，而这个组织是 Sikh Dharma 受任的牧师团。但我们的孩子有，我们的孩子对那个人有极深的归属感。事情是这样的，印度游说集团里有些人想毁掉那个形象，他们以为，如果美国人和美国孩子认同 Siri Singh Sahib 以及它受任的牧师团，并因此认同 Siri Guru Granth，那就没有中间人的位置了，就不会有二等公民了；我们也意识到，如果我们没有受任的牧师团，没有秘书处，不自己组织自己，那我们就永远依赖别人、被人指挥、被人利用、被人以各种理由滥用。所以我们开始把它建立起来，他们就开始反过来挑错、挑这挑那，诽谤宣传也开始了，但我们很聪明，我们远远走在了前面。对普通人，我们给出 Yogi Bhajan 的教导。对吃肉的人，我们给出《金庙觉知烹饪书》。
Well, you have to discuss it and you have to discuss it on nutritious values, on food values, on health values, on taste values and everything, it's a par-excellent situation, therefore, why we should give into it and then to children and to parents, we wanted to give the man called Siri Singh Sahib. Because tomorrow, you can't say the facet of the whole thing of this one man, because when we saw that we said, my God, they may end up making us a cult and we don't want to be a cult, we are not. So, oh I want to talk to you? Come.
嗯，你们得讨论它，得从营养价值、食物价值、健康价值、口味价值，从方方面面去讨论，这是个绝佳的局面，所以，为什么我们该让步，然后对孩子、对父母，我们想给这个人一个称号，叫 Siri Singh Sahib。因为明天，你没法说清这一个人整件事的刻面，因为当我们看到那一点时我们说，我的天，他们最后可能会把我们弄成一个教派，而我们不想成为一个教派，我们不是。那么，哦，我想跟你谈谈？来吧。
(Students' laughter)
（学生们笑）
But did you get that message?
但你们收到那个讯息了吗？
Student: (----)
学生：（----）
YB: Okay, okay, come, come, wait a minute. We made it hah. One and one makes not two, makes eleven, one and one makes?
YB：好，好，来，来，等一下。我们做到了，哈。一加一不等于二，等于十一，一加一等于？
Students: Eleven.
学生们：十一。
YB: Always remember that, one and one makes never two. When two parallel identities coincide to help, it is always equal to strength of eleventh, that's why eleven in numerology is unchangeable number. So what we were talking?
YB：永远记住这一点，一加一永远不等于二。当两个平行的身份重合起来去帮助时，它总是等于第十一个的力量，这就是为什么在数字学里十一是不可改变的数字。那么我们刚才在谈什么？
Student: (----)
学生：（----）
YB: Oh you are here, let I wanted to be here from there, somebody is listening to it or not.
YB：哦，你在这儿，让我想从那边到这儿来，有人在听还是没在听。
(Students' laughter)
（学生们笑）
Student: (----)
学生：（----）
YB: Hah?
YB：哈？
Student: (----)
学生：（----）
YB: Yeah kind of.
YB：对，差不多吧。
(Students' laughter)
（学生们笑）
So what we thought is this is what we thought and it's very seriously you all should always think about it. We thought that, if tomorrow somebody challenges and there was a incident of blackmail. A man came with a name called Dr. Trolochan Singh. We had a letter and correspondence with him and what happened was that, that man was asking outrageous amount of money to write the life of Guru Ram Das and we couldn't agree to that but Dr. Mansukani has written, already book is out now and we are getting some copies and we would like to give it to you, it's beautifully written and finally I met this man and he said to me, he said, "Yogiji either you pay me twenty-five thousand dollar cash, twenty percent royalty and all the investigating expense to write this book or I will end up writing book against you."
所以我们想的是，这就是我们所想的，而且非常严肃，你们所有人都应该一直思考这件事。我们想的是，如果明天有人来挑战，而且发生过一起敲诈事件。一个人来了，名叫 Dr. Trolochan Singh。我们跟他有过一封信和通信往来，事情是这样的，那个人要一笔高得离谱的钱，来写 Guru Ram Das 的生平，我们没法同意，但 Dr. Mansukani 已经写了，书现在已经出来了，我们正拿到一些副本，我们想把它给你们，写得非常美，最后我见了这个人，他对我说，他说：「Yogiji，要么你付我两万五千美元现金、百分之二十的版税，还有所有调查费用来写这本书，要么我最后就写一本反对你的书。」
And what shocked me in my life was, I didn't say anything but I started check, I said, "Is he a doctor? Is he really a doctor of literature?" So we send up letter to SGPC asking them to, please this is the situation we want to know this man is who. They send us some documentary facts, one is that he never graduated and he has lied in two places on job asking the job to get as a doctor of literature and later on when he was asked to prove the certificates, he admitted that he is not and beg the pardon and left the post. He is not a doctor and secondly he was dismissed from Patiyala for stealing government money. He end up writing a book, which is called Sikhism and Tantrism, which is nothing but a slanderous story of his visit in America and it is so slanderous that anybody he met, any house he lived, any person shook hand with him, he put them all down, that's why it is not sold and it is not available anywhere but they did distributed about five hundred copies to the negative Indians.
让我这一生感到震惊的是，我什么也没说，但我开始查证，我说：「他是博士吗？他真的是文学博士吗？」于是我们写信给SGPC，请他们——情况就是这样，我们想知道这个人是谁。他们给我们送来了一些文件事实，一是他从未毕业，二是在两处求职时谎称自己是文学博士，后来被要求出示证书时，他承认自己不是，请求原谅并辞去了职位。他不是博士；其次，他因盗用政府公款被从Patiyala开除。他最后写了一本书，叫《锡克教与谭崔》，那不过是他美国之行的一篇诽谤故事，诽谤到这种程度：他见过的任何人、住过的任何房子、握过手的任何人，他统统贬低，所以那本书卖不出去，哪里都找不到，但他们确实分发了大约五百本给那些持负面态度的印度人。
When that thing happened, the idealistic situation was, all right, here is a man who is lying, this is Dr. Mansukani gave the suggestion and what is the counterpart of it? Do you want to, if you tell these are the lies, it doesn't solve the proposition because if you tell he lies about Siri Singh Sahib or he lies about Shakti Parwah Kaur that her she has put so much lipstick on her lips that it was like blood, now everybody of you know Shakti...
那件事发生后，理想的做法是，好吧，这里有个人在撒谎，这是Mansukani博士提出的建议，那它的对应面是什么？你想不想——如果你说出这些是谎言，并不能解决问题，因为如果你说他关于Siri Singh Sahib撒谎，或者他关于Shakti Parwah Kaur撒谎，说她嘴唇上涂了那么多口红，像血一样，现在你们大家都知道Shakti……
(Students' laughter)
（学生们大笑）
Shakti Parwah is the last person who will touch even a powder, what to taught of a lipstick and those kind of things are there apparent and so he, he, what we sat down and we decided that there is no solution to all this. I mean this is all we know and how can we are going to waste money to tell that Shakti Parwah doesn't use lipstick.
Shakti Parwah是连粉都不会碰的人，更别说口红了，这类事情明摆在那里，所以他，他，我们坐下来决定，这一切都没有解决办法。我的意思是，这就是我们所知道的，我们怎么能浪费钱去说明Shakti Parwah不用口红。
(Students' laughter)
（学生们大笑）
Or I think he, he, he spared Premka and he didn't say anything about you. Rest I think he has blasted everybody. Like about me he has written one line, I read about myself in one of the article which was commenting on him that I don't have a body of a Yogi but I have a body of a habit.
或者我想他，他，他放过了Premka，关于你他什么也没说。其余的人我想他都轰了一遍。比如关于我，他写了一行，我在一篇评论他的文章里读到了关于我自己的话，说我没有瑜伽士的身体，却有一个习惯的身体。
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YB: Or a Mahant, Mahant is Maha-anth the great end, those are very spiritual people and I do not know what he is driving at.
YB：或者一个Mahant，Mahant就是Maha-anth，伟大的终点，那些是非常有灵性的人，我不知道他想说什么。
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YB: He wrote so much against Guru Bandha Singh, because Guru Bandha Singh asked him so many questions.
YB：他写了那么多反对Guru Bandha Singh的话，因为Guru Bandha Singh问了他那么多问题。
(Students' laughter)
（学生们大笑）
You know Guru Bandha Singh is actually is Sikh genius, if you, if you really know him, I mean to say how skinny he is that's something different,
你知道 Guru Bandha Singh 其实是锡克教的天才，如果你、如果你真的了解他，我是说，他有多瘦那是另一回事，
(Students' laughter)
（学生们笑）
But as far as acknowledgment is concerned you have to honor that man's work and his knowledge. So what happened was that Dr. Mansukani gave this idea and Premka said, "Why not we write the man we know."
但就认可而言，你必须尊重那个人的工作和他的知识。所以事情是这样的，Mansukani 博士提出了这个想法，Premka 说：「我们为什么不写我们认识的那个人呢。」
So the idea came to write a book on Siri Singh Sahib and I got out of it, I said, "Well, I am not Siri Singh Sahib, you know I am a office bearer of it, I am the one who sit on that chair, I am not the chair, remember that."
于是就有了写一本关于 Siri Singh Sahib 的书的念头，而我从中脱身了，我说：「好吧，我不是 Siri Singh Sahib，你知道我是它的一个任职者，我是坐在那把椅子上的人，我不是那把椅子，记住这一点。」
And we said, "Why not to write a thing like, the man called Siri Singh Sahib," and that is how the title came about. We have faced from last five years such a political blackmail and unfortunately I have told people don't make me mad because the bad luck of the situation was my Saturn is in the eleventh house and my Mercury is in the eighth house, my Sun is in the seventh house, it's called projected combination because Jupiter is in the fourth house. All you have to do is to abuse me four, five times and get to a misery and be a pauper, that's the combination, I have seen it. So what I have done is for all these years I have practiced myself never to be mad, except once and it was that Akal Kaur.
我们说：「为什么不写点像『那个叫 Siri Singh Sahib 的人』这样的东西呢，」书名就是这么来的。过去五年我们面对了这样的政治勒索，不幸的是我告诉过人们别把我惹火，因为这种处境的不幸在于我的土星在第十一宫，我的水星在第八宫，我的太阳在第七宫，这叫做投射组合，因为木星在第四宫。你所要做的就是骂我四五次，然后陷入痛苦，变得一贫如洗，就是这个组合，我见过。所以我这些年来所做的就是练习自己从不发火，只有一次例外，就是那个 Akal Kaur。
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YB: Hah? Yeah. She is the one woman who successfully provoked me that's it and I said, "All right, you break this engagement, you marry this man and your marriage will be a lesson and a legend to 3HO. And now get out of my room and get out" and I am still very miserable because it took other two lives with it. And it was not right for me to do it but the high command used me at that moment so badly that I just went along with it. It was a sheer spiritual treachery being dished out in my presence in the name of Guru, had she not used the name of Guru Ram Das, I would not have uttered those words. Normally, I can tolerate everything in the planet but when somebody insults Guru Ram Das in my presence, that is the end of the world and she said, "I have meditated and this is what Guru Ram Das tells me."
YB：哈？是的。她是唯一一个成功激怒我的女人，就这样，我说：「好吧，你解除这个婚约，你嫁给这个男人，你的婚姻将成为 3HO 的一课和一段传奇。现在滚出我的房间，滚出去。」而我现在仍然非常痛苦，因为它带走了另外两条命。我那样做是不对的，但高层在那个时刻把我用得如此糟糕，我就顺着它走了。那是在我面前以古茹之名端出来的一场赤裸裸的灵性背叛，如果她没有用 Guru Ram Das 的名字，我就不会说出那些话。通常，这个星球上的一切我都能容忍，但当有人在我面前侮辱 Guru Ram Das，那就是世界末日，而她说：「我冥想了，这就是 Guru Ram Das 告诉我的。」
I said, "Okay if this is so then we will meet you at the same frequency," but it costed us very heavy. Karta Singh and what else?
我说：「好吧，如果是这样，那我们就在同一个频率上见你，」但这让我们付出了非常沉重的代价。Karta Singh，还有什么？
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YB: Yeah that was and that is why I told everybody that only on a special day you should decorate the Dhamalas and that was right too. Because Dhamala has a power to take you to ecstasy and we still are infancy we want to live. Do you understand what I mean?
YB：是的，就是这样，所以我才告诉大家，只有在特别的日子你才应该装饰Dhamala，那也是对的。因为Dhamala有一种力量，能把你带入狂喜，而我们还处在婴儿期，我们想活下去。你明白我的意思吗？
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YB: What should I tell you? With Dhamala first of all, all the banis of Guru Gobind Singh should be known to you by heart. Number two, when you wear Dhamala, your word should be very kind, sweet and smiling. You can't wear a Dhamala and look like crazy. So that's why we told everybody that they can wear Dhamala on Baisakhis or on special occasions but you know everybody started wearing Dhamala, it makes you look good, it's wonderful, it's very powerful way of dressing but we sat down and we decided that it doesn't, nobody can tolerate the energy. Yeah?
YB：我该跟你说什么？戴Dhamala，首先，Guru Gobind Singh的所有圣言你都要熟记于心。第二，当你戴Dhamala时，你的话语要非常和善、甜美、带着微笑。你不能戴着Dhamala却看起来像个疯子。所以这就是为什么我们告诉大家，他们可以在拜萨基节或特殊场合戴Dhamala，但你知道每个人都开始戴Dhamala了，它让你看起来好看，它很美妙，它是一种非常有力的穿着方式，但我们坐下来决定，不行，没有人能承受那种能量。是吧？
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YB: Dhamala is a special way of wearing a turban, Dhamala, it's called Dhamala. Here you know it's a when you put total Dhamala as the way it is prescribed, then you cannot work on Earth, then you are, it really does something to people and we decided that, it's not very accurate that everybody out of fashion started wearing it, so we wanted it to be real and that was very nice everybody listened to.
YB：Dhamala是一种特别的缠头巾方式，Dhamala，它叫Dhamala。你知道，当你按规定的完整方式戴上Dhamala时，你就无法在地球上工作了，那时你就是，它真的会对人产生某种作用，我们决定，每个人出于时尚都开始戴它，这不太准确，所以我们希望它是真实的，那很好，每个人都听了。
Idealistic situation is right before us and it is exactly which happened two thousand years ago and which happened five thousand years ago. When Judaism started, it was a tribal law and tribal infiltration of God among the peoples heart and they wanted to see God, they went through exactly the same tragedy it as going, we are going through. They have to walk forty years from Egypt to Palestine, the Promised Land to become strong. Forty years. When Moses started with them, he was young and beautiful, mature and when he told them where the land is, he was old enough that he knew his time has come, he walked away.
理想的情境就在我们眼前，它正是两千年前发生的事，也正是五千年前发生的事。当犹太教开始时，它是一部部落律法，是神在人们心中的部落式渗透，他们想看见神，他们经历了和我们现在正在经历的完全一样的悲剧。他们必须从埃及走到巴勒斯坦，那应许之地，走四十年才能变得强壮。四十年。当摩西和他们一起出发时，他年轻、俊美、成熟，当他告诉他们那片土地在哪里时，他已经老到知道自己的时辰到了，他走开了。
Now second time came, when the Christianity started and the funny part of the Christianity is the only indicator that in which cave we are meeting was to draw the line of the fish. That's why, early Christians were very expert for drawing the fish, they will draw fish on the road and it will tell you all the directions and they will meet at night in certain dark caves to pray and they were so true and you must have heard all those stories that they lived to one thing only, 'Thou shall not kill.' Even when they fought with gladiators, they got killed that was different but when they totally got into the situation that they could have killed, they stopped. Do you know the story of that, what was his name? Who won every gladiator and when this, that Sahib what was his name?
后来第二次来了，就是基督教开始的时候，而基督教有趣的一点是，唯一能指示我们在哪个洞穴里聚会的标记，就是画鱼的线条。所以早期的基督徒非常擅长画鱼，他们会在路上画鱼，它会告诉你所有的方向，他们会在夜里聚在某个黑暗的洞穴里祈祷，他们那么真诚，你一定听过那些故事，他们只守一条：「你不可杀生。」即使他们和角斗士搏斗，被杀是另一回事，但当他们完全陷入本可以杀人的境地时，他们停手了。你知道那个故事吗，他叫什么名字？那个战胜了每一个角斗士的人，当这位，那位 Sahib，他叫什么名字？
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YB: Hah?
YB：哈？
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YB: No, no, no, no. He was the one who popular, popularized the Christianity totally because he...
YB：不，不，不，不。他就是那个让基督教彻底流行起来的人，因为他……
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YB: No, no, no, no.
YB：不，不，不，不。
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YB: Hah?
YB：哈？
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YB: Oh no, no, he was the, he became Christian and after that we had the ...
YB：哦不，不，他是那个，他成了基督徒，在那之后我们才有了……
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YB: Hah?
YB：哈？
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YB: No saint waint business, you have none of you is Christian here.
YB：别扯什么圣人，你们这儿没一个是基督徒。
(Students' laughter)
（学生笑）
I know better than you, I simply forget the name.
我比你们清楚，我只是忘了那个名字。
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YB: Oh he has a movie too.
YB：哦，他还有一部电影。
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YB: Hah?
YB：哈？
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(Students' laughter)
（学生笑）
YB: God you are all so dumb I mean you can forget that name of that guy, I forget it too, I am dumb with you also. Hah?
YB：天哪，你们全都这么笨，我是说你们居然能忘了那家伙的名字，我也忘了，我跟你们一样笨。哈？
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YB: He was, he was the one who was, what they call this Roman Empire, what was his name?
YB：他是，他就是那个，他们管这叫罗马帝国，他叫什么名字？
Student: Alexander the great.
学生：亚历山大大帝。
YB: No, no, they were all seizers, they were all seizers. What happened is this guy was the Christian and he was so brave that he will not, he will win the gladiator...
YB：不，不，他们都是征服者，他们都是征服者。事情是这样的，这家伙是基督徒，他那么勇敢，他不会，他会战胜角斗士……
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YB: Yeah, I think so.
YB：对，我想是的。
(Students' laughter)
（学生笑）
Isn't the guy?
不就是那家伙吗？
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YB: Or you just made it up?
YB：还是你瞎编的？
(Students' laughter)
（学生笑）
Yeah, this was the guy who will win the gladiator, shall not kill because the commandment to a Christian is Thou shall not...
对，就是那个会战胜角斗士的人，不可杀生，因为对基督徒的诫命是「你不可……」
Students: Kill.
学生：杀生。
YB: This all kosher business it is, it is a backdoor entry. Because it cannot be logically right, when the commandment say, it cannot be right for a Sikh, Ek Ong Kar, Sat Nam. If this is what it is, if this is what it is, it cannot be then, that Sikh has to worship different demigods, it can't be. It's not, it's not logical, it's not true but now God knows who wrote the Bible four hundred years after it was written. If the commandment is Thou shall not kill, how can you justify...
YB：这整套 kosher 的事，它是一条后门。因为它在逻辑上不可能对，当诫命说的时候，对一个锡克来说它不可能对，Ek Ong Kar，Sat Nam。如果这就是它，如果这就是它，那就不可能是，锡克必须去崇拜各种不同的半神，不可能。它不是，它不合逻辑，它不是真的，但如今只有神知道是谁在《圣经》写成四百年之后写了它。如果诫命是「你不可杀人」，你怎么能自圆其说……
(YB to a student: Oh I was waiting for you, welcome, we have to talk something.)
（YB 对一位学生说：哦，我一直在等你，欢迎，我们得谈点事。）
If it is true that Thou shall not kill then how this kosher business can be entered in the same book. Have you ever thought of that?
如果「你不可杀人」是真的，那这 kosher 的事又怎么能被写进同一本书里。你想过这个吗？
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YB: How?
YB：怎么会？
Student: What is the mean by that?
学生：那是什么意思？
YB: Hah?
YB：哈？
Student: What is the mean by?
学生：那是什么意思？
YB: What?
YB：什么？
Student: Thou shall not kill?
学生：「你不可杀人」？
YB: Yeah.
YB：对。
Student: What did they mean (?)?
学生：他们是什么意思（？）？
YB: They meant not to kill.
YB：他们的意思就是不可杀人。
(Students' laughter)
（学生们大笑）
Commandment is a directive, in entire Siri Guru Granth Sahib, all are suggestive director, there is only one directive in the entire Siri Guru Granth Sahib, it's the Guru and those who love it as a Guru, there is only one directive, it is Jap. Aad Sach, Jugad Sach, Hai Bhee Sach, Nanak Hosee bhee sach, this is only one directive, rest is Simro Simar, Simar, rest is all suggestive directives. Commandment is called decree. Decree comes from a ultimate authority and it cannot be appealed, cannot be amended, cannot be postponed, the law of decree is it has to be executed and the decree is, decree is, Thou shall not kill, that's the decree. There is no amendment, no alternative, no postponement, no suggestiveness, there is nothing, Thou shall not?
诫命是一道指令，整部《圣格兰特经》里，全都是建议性的指引，整部《圣格兰特经》里只有一道指令，就是古茹，以及那些把它当作古茹来爱的人，只有一道指令，就是 Jap。Aad Sach，Jugad Sach，Hai Bhee Sach，Nanak Hosee bhee sach，这是唯一的一道指令，其余都是 Simro Simar，Simar，其余全是建议性的指引。诫命叫作敕令。敕令来自一个终极权威，它不能被上诉，不能被修改，不能被推迟，敕令的法则就是它必须被执行，而敕令就是，敕令就是，「你不可杀人」，那就是敕令。没有修改，没有替代，没有推迟，没有建议性，什么都没有，「你不可」？
Students: Kill.
学生：杀人。
YB: It is a commandment of God. Thou shall not do?
YB：这是神的诫命。「你不可」做什么？
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YB: Adultery right? It means you cannot mix water in milk, it's a adultery. You cannot sell margin as butter. It is adultery, adultery is not only in case of male and sex, adultery mean which is anything and which can be mixed with anything which is not that thing. Thou shall not worship anyone other than Thy one God, isn't that the first one, what are the Ten Commandments can you read it to me?
YB：通奸，对吧？意思是你不能往牛奶里掺水，那就是通奸。你不能把边角料当黄油卖。那是通奸，通奸不只发生在男女和性上，通奸指的是任何东西，任何可以被掺进别的东西里、而那东西又不是它本身的东西。「你不可崇拜除你唯一的神以外的任何神」，这不是第一条吗，十诫你能读给我听吗？
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YB: Okay, you know all of them? Come on all right, what is the one?
YB：好，你都知道吗？来吧，好，第一条是什么？
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YB: It means there is a one ultimate God, right? Then all this wooden Gods and the stone Gods and this plastic Gods are nowhere right? Okay, what is the second?
YB：意思是只有一位终极的神，对吧？那么所有这些木头的神、石头的神、塑料的神都哪儿也不是，对吧？好，第二条是什么？
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YB: What?
YB：什么？
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YB: I hear so many things, I don't know what you want to say.
YB：我听到这么多东西，我不知道你想说什么。
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(Students' laughter)
（学生们的笑声）
YB: In the name of God, that's what it means.
YB：以神的名义，就是这个意思。
Students: Yeah.
学生：是的。
YB: Some people do not know that. Okay, what is the third?
YB：有些人不知道这一点。好，第三个是什么？
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YB: What is the fourth?
YB：第四个是什么？
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YB: Hah?
YB：哈？
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YB: Rest on this I was right? Is that? Fifth?
YB：就凭这一点我说对了吧？是吗？第五个？
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YB: No, no only father, not mother.
YB：不，不，只有父亲，没有母亲。
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YB: Hah?
YB：哈？
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YB: Oh there is a chance for mother too?
YB：哦，母亲也有份？
(Students' laugher)
（学生们的笑声）
YB: Good. Okay.
YB：好。行。
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YB: Huh?
YB：嗯？
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YB: Oh they must be doing a lot in those days. God has to give a direct commandment. You know in Arabia, where Lord Hazrat Mohammed was the prophet and sometime you put down these Moslems, why they have four wives right? We, we call this ridiculous, what do you mean by that? Now look at the history of that time? History at that time was that woman was traded against sheeps. You can give sixteen sheep and you can take away four women. Four sheeps to a woman and three goats, bakriya. They call sheep is called bakri and the goat is called sheep is called bhed, bhed, bhed, bhed chaal, bhed chal, sheeps they all walk one way, stampede, nobody listen left and right. Goat is bakri. Can you believe that was a acceptable, social, ethical, governmental command.
YB：哦，他们那时候一定干了不少事。神不得不直接下诫命。你知道在阿拉伯，Lord Hazrat Mohammed 是先知，有时候你们贬低这些穆斯林，他们为什么有四个妻子，对吧？我们，我们管这叫荒唐，你这是什么意思？现在看看那个时代的历史？那个时代的历史是，女人被拿来跟羊交易。你可以给十六只羊，就能带走四个女人。四只羊换一个女人，再加三只山羊，bakriya。他们管绵羊叫 bakri，管山羊叫，绵羊叫 bhed，bhed，bhed，bhed chaal，bhed chal，绵羊全都朝一个方向走，踩踏，没人听左右。山羊是 bakri。你能相信那曾经是被接受的、社会的、伦理的、政府的命令吗。
So my dear women you have risen from a point minus zero twenty to this, congratulations. Now at least you are not sold against goats and sheeps. Can you believe that? It's a historical fact it is, it is a historical fact. So what will happen, a man will come with a herd of sheeps and he will say to this guy, all right, you have my one hundred and sixty sheeps and I will have your so many women and he will give them the sheeps and he will slug these womens, plug them with that, that shackle them and he will take them away.
所以，我亲爱的女士们，你们已经从负二十度那个点升到了这里，恭喜。现在至少你们不再被拿去换山羊和绵羊了。你能相信吗？这是历史事实，这是，这是历史事实。那会发生什么，一个男人会带着一群绵羊来，他会对这家伙说，行，你有一百六十只我的绵羊，我要你这么多女人，他把绵羊给他们，然后他把这些女人一拽，用那个把她们一拴，给她们戴上镣铐，就把她们带走了。
Up to eighteenth century in all these Moslem areas, women were publicly auctioned. I think they are very civilized now and it's Hazrat Mohammed said, 'all right you can't have more than four women' I think he was very nice. I am just giving you comparative study, comparative study was every Christian and Jew has a God's commandment, it's not from Esa or it is not from Hazrat Ibrahim, it is not from Musa, Moses, it is not from Jesus Christ of Nazareth, it is from God. You know you swear on Bible, it mean, you swear but to uphold the principle of God commandment and the commandment is Thou shall not?
一直到十八世纪，在所有那些穆斯林地区，女人都被公开拍卖。我觉得他们现在很文明了，Hazrat Mohammed 说，「行，你不能有超过四个女人」，我觉得他非常好。我只是给你们做个比较研究，比较研究是，每个基督徒和犹太人都有神的诫命，它不是来自 Esa，也不是来自 Hazrat Ibrahim，它不是来自 Musa，Moses，它不是来自拿撒勒的 Jesus Christ，它是来自神。你知道你对着《圣经》发誓，意思是，你发誓，但要维护神诫命的原则，而那诫命是，你不可？
Students: Kill.
学生：杀。
YB: What they are doing, look at them. Look around you and see, have you been to this butchering mill?
YB：看看他们在做什么，看看他们。看看你周围，你去过这种屠宰场吗？
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YB: Slaughter starves not that. That slaughter house and mill the whole thing. You know what they do? They bring the trucks and in these trucks are these cows or whatever is going to be done, they bring it there and they are put in a kind of a channel kind of a path and they are asked to run. And when they go up at a point, they are given a kind of electric shock or something and they turn around and right there, they fall and then there is a just go like as you go on a plate and then the neck is cut and skin is taken out, turned out this, that. If you see all that processing, I don't think ever you can afford to eat meat. What goes on there, it's a very, very horrible experience. All this red meat and all this what you see in the shops is all dye work. It is not what, what goes on there.
YB：屠宰并不只是饿死那么简单。那个屠宰场和整个工厂。你知道他们怎么做吗？他们开来卡车，卡车里装着这些牛或者随便什么要被处理的东西，把它们运到那里，然后被赶进一条像通道一样的路里，逼着它们跑。当它们跑到某个点上，就受到一种电击之类的东西，它们一转身，就在那里倒下，然后就像你在一张板子上滑过去一样，脖子被割开，皮被剥下来，翻过来翻过去，这样那样。如果你看到那整个流程，我觉得你再也吃不下肉了。那里发生的事，是非常非常可怕的经历。所有那些红肉，所有你在店里看到的，全是染色的把戏。根本不是那里真正发生的东西。
Sardar Guru Charan Singh you many of you know, right? He was one day joking, we were traveling together and we were given vegetarian meals and some people were given steak and all that and he laughed and I ask him, "Why you are laughing?"
Sardar Guru Charan Singh，你们很多人认识他，对吧？有一天他在开玩笑，我们一起旅行，给我们上的是素食，给有些人上的是牛排之类的，他笑了，我问他：「你笑什么？」
He said, "You know all the steak, which is being served on this BOAC ship is 1952 stock."
他说：「你知道这艘BOAC航班上供的所有牛排，都是1952年的存货。」
(Students' laughter)
（学生笑）
He is BOAC store officer and I said, "I don't understand."
他是BOAC的仓储主管，我说：「我不明白。」
He said, "You know in the first class we serve these..." Those has claws what they call?
他说：「你知道在头等舱我们供的这些……」那种有钳子的叫什么？
Students: Lobsters.
学生：龙虾。
YB: Lobsters and he said, "You know when we bought them?"
YB：龙虾，他说：「你知道我们什么时候买的吗？」
I said, "When?"
我说：「什么时候？」
He said, "In 1940."
他说：「1940年。」
(Students' laughter)
（学生笑）
They bought them 1940 lobster on average computerize arrangement to they should be sufficient for other twenty, forty years and they freeze them. All these dinners, which you eat are made years and years ago.
他们1940年买的龙虾，用电脑化的平均安排，算好足够再用二十、四十年，然后冷冻起来。你吃的所有这些晚餐，都是很多很多年前做好的。
(Students' laughter)
（学生笑）
What happen is, what has to go tomorrow three days before that, that stock is taken out of the main freezer then it is defreezed and then it is made ready to go on the plane. He said, "If all the airlines start buying six months basis they go bankrupt. They buy totally wholesale, they buy it from their own agents and they buy twenty years, ten years, thirty years, forty years stock at once. You know their lettuce is very crispy, right?
事情是这样的，明天要用的东西，三天前就从主冷库里把存货取出来，解冻，然后准备好送上飞机。他说：「如果所有航空公司都开始按六个月为周期采购，它们就会破产。他们完全按批发买，从自己的代理商那里买，一次就买二十、十、三十、四十年的存货。你知道他们的生菜很脆，对吧？
(Students' laughter)
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Have you eaten at the LA? Because in spite of the entire deep freezing, it is still six months old. Have you eaten tofu here?
你在洛杉矶吃过吗？因为尽管经过整个深度冷冻，它还是六个月前的。你在这里吃过豆腐吗？
Students: Yes.
学生：吃过。
YB: And have you eaten tofu in Washington D.C or in Los Angeles?
YB：那你在华盛顿特区或者洛杉矶吃过豆腐吗？
Students: Yes.
学生：吃过。
YB: Don't you feel the difference?
YB：你难道不觉得有差别吗？
Students: Yes.
学生：是的。
YB: Eat it and find it. No, it's not that it's very different. She made it everyday but, oh I am not talking of the other one. So people, religion was the science of reality to reach the clarity of mind and to discipline oneself to Infinity what happened is, man made it to his convenience. We don't practice religion, we shelter ourself behind the religion. How can a Christian sit on a plate and take a knife and that stuff and ever think that he is going to eat something, which has been killed.
YB：吃它，然后去发现它。不，不是那样，它非常不同。她每天都做，但是，哦，我说的不是另一个。所以人们，宗教本是现实的科学，用来达到心智的清晰，并把自己训练到无限，结果呢，人把它改成了对自己方便的样子。我们不实践宗教，我们把自己藏在宗教后面。一个基督徒怎么能坐在盘子前，拿起刀和那些东西，还想着自己要去吃一个被杀死的东西。
Mukta Kaur said very beautifully once, she said, "We don't anything which swims away, which walks away or which flies away." And Jesus Christ said, "I give you the herbs and roots." There are three types of foods, one which grows under the Earth, one which grows within the range of three feet from the Earth and one which grows beyond three feet from the Earth. There are lot of theories how to eat but if you will eat, eat, roots, vegetables and fruits, cereals, lentils and all that stuff and also you use the natural stimulants, what they call them? Huh?
Mukta Kaur 有一次说得非常美，她说：「我们不吃任何游走的东西、走开的东西或飞走的东西。」而 Jesus Christ 说：「我把草药和根茎赐给你们。」食物有三种，一种长在地下，一种长在离地 3 英尺的范围内，一种长在离地 3 英尺之外。关于怎么吃有很多理论，但如果你要吃，就吃根茎、蔬菜和水果、谷物、扁豆和所有那些东西，你也可以用天然的兴奋剂，他们管它们叫什么？嗯？
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YB: No, that is not...
YB：不，那不是……
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YB: Spices are natural stimulants. Why we cook the food, can anybody explain me?
YB：香料就是天然的兴奋剂。我们为什么要烹饪食物，有谁能给我解释一下？