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Guru Guru Wahe Guru, Guru Ram Das.
Guru Guru Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo,Guru Ram Das。
Aad Guray Nameh Jugad Guray Nameh,
Aad Guray Nameh Jugad Guray Nameh,
Sat Guray Nameh, Siri Guru Devay Nameh
Sat Guray Nameh,Siri Guru Devay Nameh
Wahe Guru Ji Ka Khalsa,
Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo Ji Ka Khalsa,
Student: Wahe Guru Ji Ki Fateh.
学生:Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo Ji Ki Fateh。
YB: I will speak in English and I like you to be (?) It is not true that by numerical number you can impress the world but it is true that by the exalted consciousness you can establish the meaning of the purity, dignity, Divinity in (?) and that is what Khalsa is not that few rich Sikhs who do not know how to talk, how to live and they bring not only shame but insult to Guru's house.
YB:我会用英语讲,我希望你们(?)靠数字并不能让世界记住你,但靠那崇高的意识,你确实能在(?)中确立纯洁、尊严与神性的意义,这才是卡尔萨(Khalsa),而不是那几个有钱的锡克人,他们连怎么说话、怎么生活都不懂,他们带给古茹(Guru)之家的不只是羞耻,还有侮辱。
Some of you who feel and understand that without having the ultimate consciousness and ultimate knowledge, without understanding the power to sacrifice and power to be graceful the core in comparative study when you have to be challenged and asked to be stand for, when you have the spirit and spirit of the Khalsa and if you let us down it is better you be dead and not with us then to just see you failing us and failing the Guru all around the world.
你们中有些人感觉到、也明白:若没有那终极的意识与终极的知识,若不懂得牺牲的力量与优雅的力量,在比较研究中那核心的东西——当你必须被挑战、被要求站出来的时候,当你拥有卡尔萨的精神与气魄的时候——如果你让我们失望,那你倒不如死了、不和我们在一起,也好过让我们眼睁睁看着你辜负我们、辜负全世界的古茹。
the Khalsa and if you let us down it is better you be dead and not with us then to just see you failing us and failing the Guru all around the world.
卡尔萨,如果你让我们失望,那你倒不如死了、不和我们在一起,也好过让我们眼睁睁看着你辜负我们、辜负全世界的古茹。
You must understand that we don't need you. It is the Khalsa of the Guru Gobind Singh, it's the Panth of Guru Gobind Singh, it is the Panth of Siri Guru Granth, it is started with a word, it merge in a word and it will live by the word not by your Turbans and your shaved beards and your what you call that blackened faces, what kind of color you put on and all your penetration which, which is really a daylight insult to the Guru. You have totally misunderstood pointblank what Guru Gobind Singh said? What he stood for? What he wanted out of us and what is required out of each human being?
你必须明白,我们不需要你。这是 Guru Gobind Singh 的卡尔萨,这是 Guru Gobind Singh 的教团(Panth),这是《圣格兰特经》(Siri Guru Granth Sahib)的教团,它由一个词开始,融入一个词,也将靠这个词而活,不是靠你们的头巾、你们剃掉的胡子、你们所谓的那些黑脸,你们涂的是什么颜色,还有你们那一套渗透,那真是光天化日之下对古茹的侮辱。你们完全误解了 Guru Gobind Singh 到底说了什么?他代表什么?他想从我们这里得到什么?以及每一个人被要求的是什么?
misunderstood pointblank what Guru Gobind Singh said? What he stood for? What he wanted out of us and what is required out of each human being?
完全误解了 Guru Gobind Singh 到底说了什么?他代表什么?他想从我们这里得到什么?以及每一个人被要求的是什么?
We have a history of five hundred and fourteen years. We cannot go back there is absolutely no way. Doesn't matter how divided you are and doesn't matter how wrong you are? Khalsa and Sikh Dharam stand on a certain path, on a certain evaluation and in certain value nobody can fail you. No price is dear enough to be not to be paid to be a Sikh. Because you must understand among twenty-two religion. There are eight major religions and one of them is Sikh Dharma. In every religion you have to make an effort to visualize the start. In Sikh Dharam, you have to visualize the end and beyond. So (?)
我们有 514 年的历史。我们回不去了,绝对没有办法。不管你们多么分裂,不管你们多么错误?卡尔萨与锡克正法(Sikh Dharma)站在一条特定的道路上,站在某种特定的评判与某种特定的价值上,没有人能让你失败。为了做一个锡克人,没有什么代价是贵到不该付的。因为你必须明白,在 22 种宗教中,有 8 大宗教,其中之一就是锡克正法。在每一种宗教里,你都得努力去观想那个开始。在锡克正法里,你必须观想那个终点,以及终点之外。所以(?)
, it can never be what you wanted to be, some told me today that we have lost five hundred youths to the other religion in Malaysia.
,它永远不可能成为你想成为的样子,今天有人告诉我,在马来西亚,我们已经失去了五百个年轻人,他们转投了别的宗教。
beyond. So (?)
超越。所以(?)
, it can never be what you wanted to be, some told me today that we have lost five hundred youths to the other religion in Malaysia.
,它永远不可能成为你想成为的样子,今天有人告诉我,在马来西亚,我们已经失去了五百个年轻人,他们转投了别的宗教。
I will like to tell you when I came some years ago I found you better than I found you this time. This time you are more confused you are most, you are more divided, you are more quarrelsome, you are less humble and you have much less guts than what I saw and I (?) you then. The reason you have to sit in your own heart. You have to know it this is how I feel. When somebody has gone away from the Guru, as much is the distance come that much the weakness come. As much is the nearness come that much the strength come.
我想告诉你们,几年前我来的时候,我觉得你们比这次我看到的要好。这次你们更困惑,你们最,你们更分裂,你们更爱争吵,你们更不谦卑,你们的胆量也比我那时看到的少得多,我(?)你们。原因你们得坐在自己心里去找。你们得知道,这就是我的感受。当一个人离开了Guru,距离有多远,软弱就有多深。亲近有多近,力量就有多强。
has gone away from the Guru, as much is the distance come that much the weakness come. As much is the nearness come that much the strength come.
离开了Guru,距离有多远,软弱就有多深。亲近有多近,力量就有多强。
Yesterday I explained that it is very confusing to the born child to go to the Gurdwara and find five Gurus there. Why it is being done? I don't understand. What was the explanation was it was not understandable. I had to take a chance good with the President, requested him then a big Gurdwara will have (?) Gurus, Guru, smaller will have a eleven, little one have three that is not the way Sikh Dharma permits. It's a very simple decisive thing either go by the Gurmath or go by Maan Math we don't need any preachers or a teacher.
昨天我解释过,对一个刚出生的孩子来说,去谒师所(Gurdwara)却看到五位Guru,是非常令人困惑的。为什么要这样做?我不明白。给出的解释根本让人听不懂。我只好冒险跟主席好好谈,请求他,然后一座大的谒师所会有(?)位Guru,Guru,小一点的会有十一位,再小一点的有三位,这不是锡克正法(Sikh Dharma)允许的方式。这是一件非常简单、必须决断的事:要么依Gurmath而行,要么依Maan Math而行,我们不需要任何传教士或老师。
the way Sikh Dharma permits. It's a very simple decisive thing either go by the Gurmath or go by Maan Math we don't need any preachers or a teacher.
这不是锡克正法(Sikh Dharma)允许的方式。这是一件非常简单、必须决断的事:要么依Gurmath而行,要么依Maan Math而行,我们不需要任何传教士或老师。
Siri Guru Granth tells us from A to Z complete and well all we have to do is well inform. We have to well inform ourself. Now, there is another thing it was the elders are different, the youth is different and what else? You are still Aroras and Katris and Majjas and Magas could you just have mercy on yourself? When you want to be Sikh of the Guru you are living in Malaysia neither there is Baba here no Malva and Majja and you have brought all the quarrels and divisions over here and everywhere. My job is to, simple to give you a call listen to it and try to understand.
《圣格兰特经》(Siri Guru Granth Sahib)从A到Z完整而周全地告诉了我们,我们所要做的就是好好告知。我们得好好告知自己。现在,还有另一件事,长辈是一回事,年轻人是另一回事,还有什么?你们还是Aroras、Katris、Majjas和Magas,你们能不能对自己发发慈悲?当你想成为Guru的锡克教徒时,你住在马来西亚,这里既没有Baba,也没有Malva和Majja,你们却把所有的争吵和分裂带到了这里,带到了 everywhere。我的工作很简单,就是给你们一个呼唤,聆听它,试着去理解。
you have brought all the quarrels and divisions over here and everywhere. My job is to, simple to give you a call listen to it and try to understand.
你们把所有的争吵和分裂带到了这里,带到了 everywhere。我的工作很简单,就是给你们一个呼唤,聆听它,试着去理解。
There was a time when the entire Mogul empire declared there is no Sikh. Eighty crowns were given to somebody who will bring a head of the Sikh. Some people just chopped up the head of a woman because of long hair and say well he is a young Sikh. Bhai Bota Singh answered the call who (?) started charging test, army came he fought he died. When he was breathing his last they asked him, "What you did? " He said, "Just to show you the (?)" and I am explaining to you the same thing. The test which I have experienced that in United State, in Canada, in South America there are Sikh with a Prakrashic Gada with a first rate practice of Amrit,
曾经有一个时期,整个莫卧儿帝国宣布:没有锡克。谁要是拿来一个锡克的人头,就赏赐八十顶王冠。有些人只因为一个女人留着长发,就把她的头砍下来,说:喏,这是个年轻的锡克。Bhai Bota Singh 回应了这个召唤,他(?)开始征收试炼税,军队来了,他战斗,他死了。当他奄奄一息时,他们问他:「你做了什么?」他说:「只是为了让你们看看那(?)」我现在向你们解释的也是同一件事。我所经历的这个试炼是:在美国、在加拿大、在南美,都有锡克,带着 Prakrashic Gada,带着第一流的 Amrit 修持,
"Amrit Vela Nam, Vand Chakna, Dharam Dii Krit Karni,"
「Amrit Vela Nam,Vand Chakna,Dharam Dii Krit Karni,」
Does show me and proves to my satisfaction that this is the path of the Guru and Guru is the guide and Guru shall guide.
它确实向我显示,并令我满意地证明:这是古茹的道路,古茹是向导,古茹必会指引。
Dharam Dii Krit Karni,"
Dharam Dii Krit Karni,」
Does show me and proves to my satisfaction that this is the path of the Guru and Guru is the guide and Guru shall guide.
它确实向我显示,并令我满意地证明:这是古茹的道路,古茹是向导,古茹必会指引。
We have nothing to do with you and your richness at all. We don't care how fat you are, we don't care how many business you have got, we do care how much you are willing to do for the Guru that's what Sikh Dharma is. Sikh Dharma stands on one thing how much you can stand for the Guru? How much you can sacrifice for the Guru? How much you can talk for the Guru? How much you can dress for the Guru? How you might give to the Guru and whether you can represent the Guru or not? If you are not capable to represent the Guru you are not Sikh and we don't need you. There is no need of your numerical faces and big color turban and all these moustaches and all that it's all bogus to us.
我们和你、和你的财富毫无关系。我们不在乎你有多胖,不在乎你有多少生意,我们在乎的是你愿意为古茹做多少——这就是锡克正法。锡克正法只立在一件事上:你能为古茹站到什么程度?你能为古茹牺牲到什么程度?你能为古茹说到什么程度?你能为古茹穿到什么程度?你能给古茹什么,以及你能不能代表古茹?如果你没有能力代表古茹,你就不是锡克,我们也不需要你。不需要你那张凑数的脸、那块大彩头巾、那些胡子,这一切对我们来说都是假的。
We want wherever you stand you stand on Guru's explanation.
我们要的是:无论你站在哪里,你都站在古茹的解释上。
'Jab Lag Khalsa Rehey Niaaraa Thab Lag Tej De-o Mei Saharaa,
「Jab Lag Khalsa Rehey Niaaraa Thab Lag Tej De-o Mei Saharaa,
Jab Eh Ga-eh Bipran Kie Reet, Thau Na Haroo En Kee Prateet. '
Jab Eh Ga-eh Bipran Kie Reet,Thau Na Haroo En Kee Prateet。」
on Guru's explanation.
站在古茹的解释上。
'Jab Lag Khalsa Rehey Niaaraa Thab Lag Tej De-o Mei Saharaa,
「Jab Lag Khalsa Rehey Niaaraa Thab Lag Tej De-o Mei Saharaa,
Jab Eh Ga-eh Bipran Kie Reet, Thau Na Haroo En Kee Prateet. '
Jab Eh Ga-eh Bipran Kie Reet,Thau Na Haroo En Kee Prateet。」
You are outcasted from the home of the Guru you can live in Malaysia, you can live in Punjab and you can import Punjab here it doesn't matter. It will not matter and let me tell you there shall be nine hundred sixty million Khalsa.
你被逐出古茹的家门,你可以住在马来西亚,你可以住在旁遮普,你还可以把旁遮普进口到这里,那都无所谓。它不会有用,让我告诉你:会有九亿六千万卡尔萨。
Student: Bole So Nihal
学生:Bole So Nihal
Students: Sat Siri Akal.
学生们:Sat Siri Akal。
YB: And because these are the words of the Guru nobody is going to change it and Guru never said the Khalsa will be born. Khalsa Sajega, people will adapt it and let me tell you the secret also. In the space age you don't have a nervous system to live through you understand me. This is a car age, this is a jet age people are going berserk. In the space age you do not human body in biological sense does not have nervous system to take the pressure the only path which people had to adapt is the path which Guru Gobind Singh gave,
YB:因为这些是古茹的话,没有人能改动它,而古茹从没说过卡尔萨会诞生。卡尔萨会被塑造出来,人们会接纳它,我也把秘密告诉你。在太空时代,你没有一副能撑得住的神经系统,你明白我的意思。这是汽车时代,这是喷气机时代,人们正在发疯。在太空时代,从生物意义上说,人的身体没有一副能承受这种压力的神经系统,人们唯一必须走的道路,就是Guru Gobind Singh给出的那条路,
'Neecho Unch Kare Mera Gobind Kahut Nahe Dare,'
「Neecho Unch Kare Mera Gobind Kahut Nahe Dare,」
take the pressure the only path which people had to adapt is the path which Guru Gobind Singh gave,
承受这种压力,人们唯一必须走的道路,就是Guru Gobind Singh给出的那条路,
'Neecho Unch Kare Mera Gobind Kahut Nahe Dare,'
「Neecho Unch Kare Mera Gobind Kahut Nahe Dare,」
And all these miseries and miserable creatures as you are can be uplifted only through the technology, methodology of given by the Guru Gobind Singh and that's what we have experimented in United State for fifteen years and we stand victorious and now we have the right and we have earned the right to say "Wahe Guru Ji Ka Khalsa, Wahe Guru Ji Ki Fateh" and that's what it means.
而你们这些苦难的众生、这些可怜的生灵,只有通过Guru Gobind Singh给出的技术和方法才能被提升,这正是我们在美国实验了15年的东西,我们站住了,胜利了,现在我们有权,我们已经赢得了这个权利,说出「Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo Ji Ka Khalsa, Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo Ji Ki Fateh」,这就是它的意思。
These Americans were confused and many of them are confused even today. I am not telling you they are perfect but those who have touched the Guru have touched the height of God and beyond and because this experiment has stood well for fifteen years there is absolutely everything to let you be assured it's going to stand forever and the prediction given by the Guru shall come true. It is not preaching with money, it is not offering the woman and love and medical aid.
这些美国人曾经困惑,他们中许多人今天仍然困惑。我不是在告诉你们他们完美,但那些触碰过古茹的人,已经触碰到了神的高度,甚至更高,而因为这个实验15年来一直站得住,所以完全有理由让你确信它会永远站得住,古茹给出的预言必将成真。它不是用钱去传教,不是提供女人、爱和医疗援助。
forever and the prediction given by the Guru shall come true. It is not preaching with money, it is not offering the woman and love and medical aid.
永远站得住,古茹给出的预言必将成真。它不是用钱去传教,不是提供女人、爱和医疗援助。
Those old methods time is gone. Now, it is precisely going into your inner psyche understand your intelligence and also going to your consciousness and building your personality as a full fledge happy, healthy, holy human being and that is what the story is about. So please don't misunderstand that Guru has abandoned us, don't understand that enemy is stronger and don't misunderstand the times have changed that we are losing the grounds that's not true we are gaining the grounds we are gaining the territories and Panth Khalsa is going to be enlightened on this Earth to rule for always and ever.
那些老方法,时代已经过去了。现在,它恰恰是进入你内在的心识,了解你的智力,也进入你的意识,把你的品格建成一个完整的、快乐、健康、神圣的人,这就是这个故事的内容。所以请不要误解成古茹抛弃了我们,不要以为敌人更强大,也不要误解时代变了、我们正在失去阵地,那不是真的,我们正在赢得阵地,我们正在赢得疆域,而卡尔萨将在这一地球上被点亮,永远永远地统治。
true we are gaining the grounds we are gaining the territories and Panth Khalsa is going to be enlightened on this Earth to rule for always and ever.
那不是真的,我们正在赢得阵地,我们正在赢得疆域,而卡尔萨将在这一地球上被点亮,永远永远地统治。
If you do not understand us it's fine. The song of the Khalsa which we always sing is very true record are our elaborated essence to let you know what Khalsa is about. You who are here and who are trying to be professional Sikhs and you are commercializing the Gurus Bani and you stand before Siri Guru Granth, Anand Sahib Ji ke Ardas and you read five Pauri's and then the fortieth you lied before the Siri Guru Granth everyday and you want your children to be truthful, you shall be cursed in the hell which is not yet made there is no money with God yet to construct that kind of big hell for you and that's the truth.
如果你不理解我们,没关系。我们一直唱的那首卡尔萨(Khalsa)之歌,是真实的记录,是我们详尽的精髓,让你知道卡尔萨是什么。你们在这里的人,想成为专业的锡克教徒,却在把古茹的圣言(Bani)商业化,你们站在《圣格兰特经》(Siri Guru Granth)面前,做《极乐颂》(Anand Sahib)的Ardas,读五节(Pauri),然后第四十节,你们每天在《圣格兰特经》面前撒谎,你们还想让自己的孩子诚实,你们会被诅咒进那个还没造好的地狱——神那里还没钱给你造那么大的地狱,这就是真相。
you shall be cursed in the hell which is not yet made there is no money with God yet to construct that kind of big hell for you and that's the truth.
你们会被诅咒进那个还没造好的地狱——神那里还没钱给你造那么大的地狱,这就是真相。
And you make mockery of the Gurmat and you have specialized into bifurcation of Baba's and Dera's and this and that and you have tried to divide even the Amrit, this Jatthey Kaa Amrit that Jatthey Kaa Amrit it is no more, any more Guru Gobind Singh's Amrit, the Khalsa does not belong to Guru Gobind Singh any more and all that what you have done you have intentionally betrayed the Guru and by that betrayal you stand because of your ego and you condemned yourself in the court of the Guru and forever. You need to ask for forgiveness, you ask to come for apology, you have to redeem yourself it is your duty. Otherwise if you want to convince her numerically we care a two hoot for it.
你们嘲弄Gurmat,专门搞出Baba和Dera的分裂,这个那个,你们甚至试图分裂甘露(Amrit),这个Jatthey Kaa Amrit、那个Jatthey Kaa Amrit,再也不是Guru Gobind Singh的甘露了,卡尔萨再也不属于Guru Gobind Singh了,你们所做的一切,是故意背叛古茹,因为那背叛,你们凭着自己的小我(ego)站在那里,你们在古茹的法庭上永远定自己的罪。你们需要请求宽恕,你们要来道歉,你们必须救赎自己,这是你们的责任。否则,如果你们想用数字来说服她,我们根本不在乎。
We have never gone beyond numbers and we shall not and that is what Khalsa stands for.
我们从不超越数字,我们也不会,这就是卡尔萨所代表的。
want to convince her numerically we care a two hoot for it.
想用数字来说服她,我们根本不在乎。
We have never gone beyond numbers and we shall not and that is what Khalsa stands for.
我们从不超越数字,我们也不会,这就是卡尔萨所代表的。
All I have heard is this is this Sabha, this is this group, this is that situation, this is this situation. There is no situation, there is one situation, Amrit Vela Jago, getup at the ambrosial hour and chant Guru Mantra Wahe Guru there is nothing else. When the Sun rises or before that read your Bani's straight and clear and whole day act as a representative of Guru that is called Dharam Di Kirth, whole day and when you come in the evening after chanting your Rehiras give something to somebody Vand Chako and then eat your meal. So that everybody in the neighbor house, everybody in the neighborhood, everybody in the city, everybody in the country knows Sikh is a giver not a taker.
我所听到的只有:这是这个Sabha,这是这个团体,这是那种情况,这是这种情况。没有什么情况,只有一种情况:甘露时刻(Amrit Vela)醒来,在甘露时刻起床,唱诵古茹曼陀罗(Guru Mantra)Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo,没有别的。太阳升起时或在那之前,直接清楚地读你的圣言(Bani),一整天做古茹的代表,那叫Dharam Di Kirth,一整天;晚上你唱完《雷希拉斯》(Rehiras)回来,给别人一些东西,Vand Chako,然后吃你的饭。这样,邻居家每个人、邻里每个人、城里每个人、全国每个人都知道:锡克教徒是给予者,不是索取者。
And live as Akal made you that's called Akal Moorat and please have no misunderstandings if you cannot practice these fundamentals neither you belong to Guru Nanak nor you belong to Guru Granth and neither you are the Khalsa of Guru Gobind Singh.
并且按照 Akal 创造你的样子去生活,那叫作 Akal Moorat。请不要有任何误解:如果你不能实践这些根本,你既不属于 Guru Nanak,也不属于 Guru Granth,你也不是 Guru Gobind Singh 的卡尔萨。
cannot practice these fundamentals neither you belong to Guru Nanak nor you belong to Guru Granth and neither you are the Khalsa of Guru Gobind Singh.
不能实践这些根本,你既不属于 Guru Nanak,也不属于 Guru Granth,你也不是 Guru Gobind Singh 的卡尔萨。
So I will like to explain to you the fundamentals how we feel. Because it should be my privilege to hear you and I was very humble all these days and I am humble today to find it out how you feel. But very humbly I'll like to explain to you, you should also know how we feel. You are most welcome to come and join us. It is joining the family of the Guru. I have given you a suggestion every Sikh here should give Dasvandh to a common factor, all Gurdwara should join sending by one chief representative to make one body which should just look after the Khalsa Panth and every child when there are holidays should be sent to that camp to learn about Gurmath.
所以我想向你们解释这些根本,以及我们是怎么感受的。因为聆听你们本该是我的荣幸,这些天我一直很谦卑,今天我也很谦卑,想弄清楚你们感受如何。但我要非常谦卑地向你们解释,你们也该知道我们是怎么感受的。非常欢迎你们来加入我们。这是加入古茹的大家庭。我给你们提过一个建议:这里每个锡克都该把 Dasvandh 交给一个共同的机构,所有谒师所都该联合起来,派出一位首席代表,组成一个机构,专门照看卡尔萨 Panth;每个孩子放假时都该被送到那个营地,学习 Gurmath。
Every woman for a month or so should go Peke and Peke is Guru's house. So start a camp for ladies, start camp for youth, start a camp for children and train them how to be Sikh of the Guru.
每个女人都该回 Peke 住上一个月左右,而 Peke 就是古茹的家。所以开办女士营地,开办青年营地,开办儿童营地,训练他们如何成为古茹的锡克。
Peke and Peke is Guru's house. So start a camp for ladies, start camp for youth, start a camp for children and train them how to be Sikh of the Guru.
Peke 就是古茹的家。所以开办女士营地,开办青年营地,开办儿童营地,训练他们如何成为古茹的锡克。
There is no other way, every effort will fail. When in America we started we became Sikh of the Guru and the things were not right I sat down my God what is wrong? Then I found out at the month of Sawan every woman goes Peke with children. They get refreshed, they get young, they get happy no I couldn't create Pekes in America so we traded Khalsa training woman camp, six week.
没有别的路,一切努力都会失败。当年在美国我们刚开始时,我们成了古茹的锡克,可事情不对劲,我坐下来想,我的神啊,哪里错了?后来我发现,在 Sawan 月,每个女人都带着孩子回 Peke。她们恢复精神,变得年轻,变得快乐。可我在美国造不出 Peke,所以我们改成了卡尔萨训练妇女营地,六周。
So every woman comes to Peke, Peke means parents house they get trained, they rejuvenate themself, they understand Gurbani there are classes, there are physical training, there are martial arts, there is a self done classes, there is Gurbani Kirtan classes everything in the world you want to ask and they work through that sixteen to eighteen hours a day, after six week they say, "Wahe Guru Ji Ka Khalsa, Wahe Guru Ji Ki Fateh" and go back and run their household.
所以每个女人都来 Peke,Peke 意思是父母的家,她们在那里接受训练,恢复活力,理解 Gurbani,有课程,有体能训练,有武术,有自修课,有 Gurbani Kirtan 课,你想问的世上一切都有,她们一天练上 16 到 18 个小时,六周之后她们说:「Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo Ji Ka Khalsa,Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo Ji Ki Fateh」,然后回去操持自己的家。
We have camp for men they come for ten days we really do lot of Nam Simran you can't believe it. We do it once in winter ten days, one in summer and we keep the spirit going.
我们也有男人营地,他们来 10 天,我们真的做很多忆念圣名,你简直不敢相信。冬天做一次,10 天,夏天做一次,我们让这股精神持续下去。
come for ten days we really do lot of Nam Simran you can't believe it. We do it once in winter ten days, one in summer and we keep the spirit going.
来待上十天,我们真的会做很多忆念圣名(Nam Simran),你简直不敢相信。冬天做一次,十天;夏天做一次,我们让这股精神一直延续下去。
You must understand after all the soul need something to live on and the food of the soul is not the Murga and the Sharab and all that you drink and you eat. Soul lives by the Nam and Nam has to be injected to keep the soul alive. And when the psyche of the spirit gives the radiant body the strength the man is victorious and Fateh is at his feet. So try to understand please we are asking you a very simple direct question. Decide you want to be the sons and daughter of Guru Gobind Singh or not. If not declare it, if yes live it.
你必须明白,灵魂终究需要东西来维系,而灵魂的食物不是鸡肉、不是酒,不是那些你喝你吃的东西。灵魂靠圣名(Nam)而活,圣名必须被注入,灵魂才能活着。当灵的心识把力量给予光芒体(Radiant Body),人就是胜利者,Fateh 就在他脚下。所以请试着理解,我们问你一个非常简单直接的问题。你决定吧,你想不想做 Guru Gobind Singh 的儿女。不想,就宣布出来;想,就活出来。
If you cannot live it die but at least you can have a pride with death that you made all what you could and you gave yourself all to the Guru and that is the Khalsa way. That's what we sing our songs that's why we say, that is why we speak. Now, you have the right to ask me question and I shall answer.
如果你活不出来,那就去死,但至少你可以带着死的骄傲,因为你做了你能做的一切,你把自己完全交给了古茹(Guru),这就是卡尔萨(Khalsa)的方式。这就是我们唱的歌,这就是我们为什么说,这就是我们为什么讲。现在,你有权问我问题,我会回答。
Student: (-----)
学生:(-----)
YB: Yeah distribute them. Well we are distributing the questions so that you can get them we will get the answers. Don't hesitate ask any question you want. Please write it down.
YB:好,把它们发下去。我们把问题分发下去,这样你们能拿到,我们会拿到答案。别犹豫,想问什么就问。请写下来。
we are distributing the questions so that you can get them we will get the answers. Don't hesitate ask any question you want. Please write it down.
我们把问题分发下去,这样你们能拿到,我们会拿到答案。别犹豫,想问什么就问。请写下来。
(Student sing, 'Wahe Guru, Wahe Guru... ')
(学生唱:「Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo,Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo……」)
(Student stops singing)
(学生停止唱诵)
You ready, yeah come on,
你准备好了,好,来吧,
Students: "Wahe Guru Ji Ka Khalsa, Wahe Guru Ji Ki Fateh. "
学生们:「Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo Ji Ka Khalsa,Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo Ji Ki Fateh。」
YB: Man, I am very pleased to have these questions and I am very sad that I have these questions.
YB:天哪,我很高兴收到这些问题,我也很难过收到这些问题。
(Students laugh)
(学生们笑)
It is the most unfortunate day in the history of the Khalsa and of the Sikhs that our education about the Sikh Dharma has gone to the point that we are now being forced to ask these questions but I appreciate those who have asked the question and we will try very sincerely taking the history of five hundred and fourteen years before us to answer these questions. I wish this day would have been like this all these people here who work for the Sikh Dharma individually should have given you answers so you should have appreciated they know more than me.
这是卡尔萨和锡克人历史上最不幸的一天,我们对锡克正法(Sikh Dharma)的教育已经走到这一步,以至于我们现在被迫问这些问题,但我感激那些提出问题的人,我们会非常真诚地,把 514 年的历史摆在我们面前,来回答这些问题。我希望这一天本不该是这样,这里所有为锡克正法工作的人,本该各自给你们答案,那你们就会欣赏他们,他们知道的比我多。
They, they practice it, they have understood it, they have lived it and they could have answered you all this but somehow we will try to join our hands mostly questions are repeated.
他们,他们实践它,他们理解它,他们活出它,他们本可以回答你们这一切,但不管怎样,我们会试着携起手来,大部分问题都是重复的。
understood it, they have lived it and they could have answered you all this but somehow we will try to join our hands mostly questions are repeated.
理解它,他们活出它,他们本可以回答你们这一切,但不管怎样,我们会试着携起手来,大部分问题都是重复的。
So we are not going to sort out them because we don't want any question to be rejected but if the question has been already repeated we will try to skip that. Question otherwise we will try to answer every question because law of questioning is in every question answer is already there. Otherwise when you cannot answer (?) it's not it. Then, then it's not true and I was telling the young people when the Granthees do not answer you, (?) it's not a and if you go to the Gurdwara and he doesn't teach you Gurmukhi and Guru throw him out.
所以我们不会去整理它们,因为我们不想让任何问题被拒绝,但如果这个问题已经被重复过了,我们会尽量跳过。除此之外,我们会尽量回答每一个问题,因为提问的法则就是——每个问题里其实已经藏着答案。否则,当你回答不出来(?)那就不是它。那么,那就不是真的。我跟年轻人说过,当诵典者(Granthee)不回答你的时候,(?)那就不是,如果你去谒师所(Gurdwara),他不教你 Gurmukhi,Guru 就把他赶出去。
Don't you spare there is a one slogan 'dear don't spare if they don't give you the Guru let them not be called the Sikh of the Guru, do everything and it will be right and you will be honored in the court of Guru Gobind Singh, period. ' It's simple. It is the right of you, birthright to learn about the Guru if your parents don't teach you they don't deserve to be parents.
你别放过,有一句口号是「亲爱的,别放过,如果他们不把 Guru 给你,就别让他们被称为 Guru 的锡克,什么都去做,一切都会对,你会在 Guru Gobind Singh 的法庭上受到尊崇,就这样。」
period. ' It's simple. It is the right of you, birthright to learn about the Guru if your parents don't teach you they don't deserve to be parents.
就这样。很简单。这是你的权利,与生俱来的权利,去了解 Guru,如果你的父母不教你,他们就不配做父母。
If the Granthee doesn't teach you it doesn't to be a Granthee, if the management committee doesn't do it they are not deserved to be management committee and there is no Gurdwara where Guru is not teached, preached, taught and respected. All politics is personal it should be in the homes not in the Gurdwara. All egos should be in the homes not in the Gurdwara. All showoff should be in the homes not in the Gurdwara then you pay the cost. Please don't exercise at the cost of the Guru. It is the biggest (?), it is the biggest sin and it is most deformation act from the part of a Sikh towards the Guru. Just understand it? Yeah, that was my basic introduction.
如果诵典者不教你,他就不配做诵典者;如果管理委员会不做这件事,他们就不配做管理委员会;而且,凡是 Guru 没有被教导、宣讲、传授和尊重的地方,就没有谒师所。所有政治都是私人的,它应该待在家里,不该待在谒师所。所有小我都应该待在家里,不该待在谒师所。所有炫耀都应该待在家里,不该待在谒师所,否则你就要付出代价。请不要拿 Guru 当代价来操练。这是最大的(?),这是最大的罪,也是锡克对 Guru 最扭曲的行为。明白了吗?对,这就是我基本的开场介绍。
(Students laugh)
(学生们笑)
Student: Why should, why should we keep our hair apart from being religious and giving us strength what are the purposes that it serves?
学生:为什么,为什么我们要留头发,除了宗教上的意义和给我们力量之外,它还有什么作用?
laugh)
笑)
Student: Why should, why should we keep our hair apart from being religious and giving us strength what are the purposes that it serves?
学生:为什么,为什么我们要留头发,除了宗教上的意义和给我们力量之外,它还有什么作用?
YB: Ah, first of all you have to understand hairs are given by God. You are the only fortunate one religion where you have been given a dictate to preserve that. Now, listen to this and understand it once for all. As animals, Pashu you are two legged animal but you are superior. To confirm on you the crown of superiority God has given you hair. Without hair you cannot become intuitive, you don't have hoofs, you don't have claws, you don't have horns you have no defense mechanism as a human being and by guns and by cannons and by atomic warfare you don't defend yourself either. It does not give you individual defense.
YB:啊,首先你必须明白,头发是神赐予的。你是唯一幸运的宗教,被赋予了保留它的指令。现在,听好这个,一次就彻底明白。作为动物,Pashu,你是两足动物,但你更优越。为了确认你优越的王冠,神赐予了你头发。没有头发,你无法变得直觉敏锐,你没有蹄子,没有爪子,没有角,作为人类你没有防御机制,而通过枪支、大炮和原子战争,你也无法保护自己。它不会给你个人的防御。
mechanism as a human being and by guns and by cannons and by atomic warfare you don't defend yourself either. It does not give you individual defense.
作为人类的机制,通过枪支、大炮和原子战争,你也无法保护自己。它不会给你个人的防御。
You individual defense lies in your intuitiveness. So before the consequences you should know where the sequence is leading to you. And to know the sequence you have to be intuitively computing the entire consequences before you reach the consequences and for that you need meditative mind. And for that meditative mind you need full beard as a male and hair and full hair has a woman. Above the apple and this is what five thousand years of human experiment has proven simply Guru Gobind Singh gave you this as a Rehit so that you can be intuitively, meditatingly, absolutely perfect human being not to fall in the pit of sin or wrong. That is Kesha, Kesha relates to Akasha.
你个人的防御在于你的直觉。所以在后果发生之前,你应该知道序列正引向何处。要知道序列,你必须在到达后果之前,直觉地计算整个后果,为此你需要冥想性心智。而为了那个冥想性心智,作为男性你需要全胡须和头发,作为女性需要全头发。在苹果之上,这就是五千年人类实验所证明的,Guru Gobind Singh 简单地给了你这个作为 Rehit,以便你能成为直觉的、冥想的、绝对完美的人类,不落入罪或错误的坑中。那就是 Kesha,Kesha 与 Akasha 相关。
you can be intuitively, meditatingly, absolutely perfect human being not to fall in the pit of sin or wrong. That is Kesha, Kesha relates to Akasha.
你能成为直觉的、冥想的、绝对完美的人类,不落入罪或错误的坑中。那就是 Kesha,Kesha 与 Akasha 相关。
All right number two, you are supposed to put Kutchera. Now, lot of people have lot of theories about it calcium and magnesium in the body is controlled by the main bone in the thighs. Khalsa Kutchera is a absolutely in a shape and form to control the air bag arrangement so the calcium and magnesium can be regulated so that brain wise you can be intelligent. Any medical authority wants to come to America to challenge me on this I can challenge me on blast you on this we have all the facts about it and that is what that Kutchera is about. (?) Why to create imbalance?
好的,第二,你应该穿 Kutchera。现在,很多人对它有很多理论,身体中的钙和镁由大腿的主要骨骼控制。Khalsa Kutchera 完全是一种形状和形式,用来控制气囊安排,以便钙和镁可以被调节,这样在头脑方面你可以聪明。任何医学权威想来美国挑战我这一点,我可以在这一点上挑战我,炸掉你,我们有所有关于它的事实,那就是 Kutchera 的意义。(?) 为什么要制造不平衡?
It is not only give you self-respect, self-control it makes you to feel ah, free from the Kam, Kam and crake you to Kamana all that is a philosophy, I am talking of the physical ground.
它不仅给你自尊、自我控制,它让你感觉啊,从 Kam 中自由,Kam 和 crake 你到 Kamana,所有那些都是哲学,我说的是物理层面。
self-control it makes you to feel ah, free from the Kam, Kam and crake you to Kamana all that is a philosophy, I am talking of the physical ground.
自制会让你感觉啊,从 Kaam 中解脱出来,Kaam 和 crake 让你产生 Kaamana,那都是哲学,我说的是物质层面的基础。
Physical ground it will always keep the balance between magnesium and calcium and thus other sixty metals in the body shall be related to. It has medical advantage too. Kutch, Kara, Kara where makes you, you belong to Guru. Kara makes you to understand in consciousness it is also for the adrenals and it is also for the entire parasympathetic nervous system of the body. Kirpan chinh of Shakti gives you power of defending the weak and the poor and also it is conscious effort, a subconscious reminder and practical aspect of self exaltedness which comes by subconscious meditating on the Shastar which you wear on your body. That's why (?)
物质层面的基础,它会始终保持镁和钙之间的平衡,因此身体里其他六十种金属也都会与之相关。它也有医学上的好处。Kutch、Kara、Kara 让你,让你属于 Guru。Kara 让你在意识中理解,它也是为肾上腺,也是为身体整个副交感神经系统。Kirpan 是 Shakti 的印记,给你保护弱者和穷人的力量,它也是有意识的努力、潜意识的提醒,以及自我尊贵的实际面向,这来自潜意识地冥想你身上佩戴的 Shastar。这就是为什么(?)
these are Kakars, Kutch, Kara, Kirpan, Kanga relates to the Earth. It is the cleaning and it is always in wood and it's cleansing of the scalp and by circulating the inter-artery system of a scalp you can see the unseen. It give you intuitive vision. Kirpan I have already explained.
这些就是 Kakars,Kutch、Kara、Kirpan、Kanga 与土元素相关。它是清洁,它总是木制的,它清洁头皮,通过让头皮的经脉系统循环,你能看见看不见的东西。它给你直觉的视野。Kirpan 我已经解释过了。
the scalp and by circulating the inter-artery system of a scalp you can see the unseen. It give you intuitive vision. Kirpan I have already explained.
头皮,通过让头皮的经脉系统循环,你能看见看不见的东西。它给你直觉的视野。Kirpan 我已经解释过了。
Tell me where you can find such a Guru who can give you things which makes you super self contained human being? It doesn't belong to all it belongs to those who gave their head. They got it you give your head to the Guru you get it. Don't tell us we did it, we got it, we will live with it. You come along with us fine you don't want come along adios goodbye there is no problem, we will live without you.
告诉我,你在哪里能找到这样的 Guru,能给你这些东西,让你成为超级自足的人?它不属于所有人,它属于那些献出自己头颅的人。他们得到了,你把头献给 Guru,你就得到。别告诉我们,我们做了,我们得到了,我们会带着它活。你跟我们一起来,好;你不想来,adios,再见,没问题,我们没有你也能活。
Student: What are the five Banis, that we are supposed to (?) what does each one signify and also please explain (?) Nam (?)?
学生:那五部 Banis 是什么,我们应该(?)每一部代表什么,也请解释(?)Nam(?)?
YB: Well the Banis, Japji, it is all right Guru is talking to you be careful, God speaks today right?
YB:嗯,那些 Banis,Japji,没关系,Guru 在跟你说话,小心点,今天是神在说话,对吧?
Student: Very right.
学生:非常对。
YB: (?) that is not like a Sikh woman, don't be (?) Kaur mean princess.
YB:(?)那不像一个锡克女人,别(?)Kaur 意思是公主。
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
to you be careful, God speaks today right?
跟你说话,小心点,今天是神在说话,对吧?
Student: Very right.
学生:非常对。
YB: (?) that is not like a Sikh woman, don't be (?) Kaur mean princess.
YB:(?)那不像一个锡克女人,别(?)Kaur 意思是公主。
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
Ah, five Banis 'G' is the nucleus of the psyche of the life and it is the center of the Pranic body which correlates to the Pavan, Prana the one. Pavan is not air, don't wrong translate the thing and for that Japji is in the Astham Tattva Naad and it recreates your psyche, it regenerates your psyche everyday.
啊,五部 Banis,「G」是生命心识的核心,它是普拉纳体的中心,与 Pavan、Prana 那个一相关。Pavan 不是空气,别把这个翻错了,为此 Japji 在 Astham Tattva Naad 之中,它再造你的心识,它每天重生你的心识。
Sochai Soch Na Hovai Jo,
Sochai Soch Na Hovai Jo,
Ah that translation they say,
啊,那个翻译他们说,
'Sochai Soch Na Hovai Je Sochi Lakh Var. '
「Sochai Soch Na Hovai Je Sochi Lakh Var。」
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
You can fully understand by,
你可以完全明白,
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
You get the wisdom through the Vichar through qualifying understanding you get the wisdom and intelligence, by just worrying about something to get sickness and you become nervously bad. The Guru said don't do this,
你通过 Vichar 获得智慧,通过有质量的领悟获得智慧和智力,而只是为某件事担忧,就会生病,你会变得神经紧张、糟糕。Guru 说不要这样做,
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
One who lives in the will of God worry not so Japji, Jap Sahib when your Sathi is in danger Jap Sahib is not let it happen.
活在神的意志里的人不担忧,所以 Japji、Jap Sahib,当你的 Sathi 处于危险中,Jap Sahib 不会让它发生。
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
This is your low human ungraceful living (?) says that is why because we don't recite Jap Sahib. One who recite Jap Sahib, Cherdi Kala. Cherdi Kala Di Bani Jap Sahib hai.
这就是你低下的、不优雅的人类生活(?)说,这就是为什么,因为我们不诵读 Jap Sahib。诵读 Jap Sahib 的人,Cherdi Kala。Cherdi Kala Di Bani Jap Sahib hai。
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
living (?) says that is why because we don't recite Jap Sahib. One who recite Jap Sahib, Cherdi Kala. Cherdi Kala Di Bani Jap Sahib hai.
生活(?)说,这就是为什么,因为我们不诵读 Jap Sahib。诵读 Jap Sahib 的人,Cherdi Kala。Cherdi Kala Di Bani Jap Sahib hai。
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
Kal I was shocked I have not recovered it today. The Granthee open the Siri Guru Granth read the Anand from Siri Guru Granth,
昨天我震惊了,今天还没恢复过来。Granthee 打开《圣格兰特经》,从《圣格兰特经》里读 Anand,
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
You live such lies and you call yourself Sikhs of the Guru Granth and then you want your children to be Sikhs, you do this (?) everyday. I think your children are great, they are very brave and they are very loving they still come home and say to you Mathaji and Pithaji you don't deserve it. Stop this hipocracy for God sake live straight, walk straight, talk straight and live straight Guru will be with you all the time.
你活在这样的谎言里,还自称是《圣格兰特经》的锡克教徒,然后你还想让你的孩子成为锡克教徒,你每天都这样做(?)。我觉得你的孩子很棒,他们非常勇敢,非常有爱,他们仍然回家对你说,Mathaji 和 Pithaji,你们不配。看在神的份上停止这种虚伪,活得正直,走得正直,说得正直,活得正直,Guru 会一直与你同在。
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
You will never be bankrupt for any reason. Yeh anti-bankruptcy Bani Hai and Kirtan Sohila is,
你永远不会因为任何原因破产。Yeh anti-bankruptcy Bani Hai,而 Kirtan Sohila 是,
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
When you do not know to do Ardas it goes direct to God and Kirtan Sohila is for your calm, peaceful, consolidated, self-contained world so that tomorrow morning Amrit Vela you can be fresh and beautiful. What is this?
当你不知道怎么做 Ardas 时,它会直接到达神那里,而 Kirtan Sohila 是为了你平静、安宁、巩固、自足的世界,这样明天早上甘露时刻你才能清新而美丽。这是什么?
Student: Bedhi of the Nam?
学生:Bedhi of the Nam?
consolidated, self-contained world so that tomorrow morning Amrit Vela you can be fresh and beautiful. What is this?
巩固、自足的世界,这样明天早上甘露时刻你才能清新而美丽。这是什么?
Student: Bedhi of the Nam?
学生:Bedhi of the Nam?
YB: Bedhi of the Nam is Wahe Guru is Tirkuti Mantra and ah, you do not like Kundalini yoga fine with me but Guru Gobind Singh gave Mata Jitoji how to chant Nam,
YB:Bedhi of the Nam 就是 Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo,是 Tirkuti Mantra,还有,你不喜欢昆达里尼瑜伽,我没意见,但 Guru Gobind Singh 给了 Mata Jitoji 如何唱诵 Nam,
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
In that Kundalini yoga Bedhi is written. So if I say Kundalini yoga you are fanatic or you are lazy Sikh you will have a kind of opposition but now what you are going to do with the (?). So read it from there, if you don't understand then get to Garud Puran. In Garud Puran it is explained too. So there are lot of places where it is explained but best thing explained is
在那部昆达里尼瑜伽里,Bedhi 被写了下来。所以如果我说昆达里尼瑜伽,你就是狂热分子,或者你是懒惰的锡克教徒,你会有某种抵触,但现在你打算拿(?)怎么办。所以从那里读它,如果你不明白,就去读 Garud Puran。在 Garud Puran 里也有解释。所以有很多地方解释了它,但解释得最好的是
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
Guru has explained you how to do it and,
Guru 已经向你解释了怎么做,还有,
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
Hypothalamus, pituitary gland, central nervous system (?) and there is a cavity called Mool,
下丘脑、脑垂体、中枢神经系统(?),还有一个腔,叫做 Mool,
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
And that get upside down and then you know what you want to know, you see what you want see and you hear what you want to hear and that's a ordinary life of a ordinary Gursikh.
它颠倒过来,然后你就知道你想知道的,你看见你想看见的,你听见你想听见的,那就是一个普通 Gursikh 的普通生活。
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
Wahe Guru, Wahe Guru, Wahe Guru.
Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo,Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo,Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo。
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
That is Nam Bedhi,
那就是 Nam Bedhi,
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
want to hear and that's a ordinary life of a ordinary Gursikh.
想听见,那就是一个普通 Gursikh 的普通生活。
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
Wahe Guru, Wahe Guru, Wahe Guru.
Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo,Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo,Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo。
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
That is Nam Bedhi,
那就是 Nam Bedhi,
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
When somebody told me "I am Sikh I can't do it? " I said, "Lie down Wahe Guru doesn't make any difference. "
有人对我说「我是锡克教徒,我做不了这个?」我说,「躺下,Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo 没有任何区别。」
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
It takes about five to six hour to (?).
大约要花 5 到 6 个小时(?)。
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
Then you don't forget it that's what we do in America we sit down and here you go one, two three chalo,
然后你就不会忘记它,这就是我们在美国做的,我们坐下来,然后你就来,一、二、三,chalo,
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
And sometime we do it whole day,
有时候我们做一整天,
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
There is a great preacher of...
有一位伟大的传道者……
SIDE – B
B 面
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
Western, ah western person never knew how to sit in Chaubari,
西方人,啊,西方人从来不知道怎么在 Chaubari 里坐,
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
You have got this way circulation of the blood decreases towards the lower area and that increases to the higher areas and when you chant the Nam you need extra blood supply.
你这样一来,血液循环往下部区域减少,往上部区域增加,而当你唱诵 Nam 时,你需要额外的血液供应。
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
There is nothing special.
没有什么特别的。
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
Your lower back hurts, your leg sleep because you eat too much, you exercise not and you never prepare yourself.
你的下背痛,你的腿发麻,因为你吃太多,你不运动,你从来不准备自己。
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
And that is the basic criteria and basic benefit to be a Sikh. Cherdi Kala (?)
那就是成为锡克教徒的基本标准和基本益处。Cherdi Kala(?)
too much, you exercise not and you never prepare yourself.
太多,你不运动,你从来不准备自己。
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
And that is the basic criteria and basic benefit to be a Sikh. Cherdi Kala (?)
那就是成为锡克教徒的基本标准和基本益处。Cherdi Kala(?)
Student: What they (?) Simran in English than for Wahe Guru, God is great have Mool Mantra and the other half in English ah, is it more damaging what about singing hymns in English?
学生:他们(?)用英语做 Simran,而不是 Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo,神是伟大的,有 Mool Mantra,另一半用英语,啊,是不是更有害,用英语唱赞美诗怎么样?
YB: You can sing anything in anything. Mantra is Guru Mantra it cannot be sung in anything other than what Guru said so.
YB:你可以用任何语言唱任何东西。曼陀罗是 Guru Mantra,它不能用 Guru 所说的以外的任何东西来唱。
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
It cannot be changed. Wahe Guru will remain Wahe Guru whether it is in English or in Persian or Malayan or anything. It cannot be anything God is wonderful Lord doesn't solve the problems. Mantra is only; Mantra is between the Sikh and the Guru. It is not to show people and to take care of your problems.
它不能被改变。Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo 将仍然是 Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo,不管它是英语、波斯语、马来语还是别的什么。它不能是别的什么,神是奇妙的,主解决不了问题。曼陀罗只是;曼陀罗是锡克教徒和 Guru 之间的事。它不是用来向人展示,也不是用来处理你的问题的。
Student: The Naad?
学生:那 Naad 呢?
YB: It has a Naad to it Wa-he Guru,
YB:它有一个 Naad,Wa-he Guru,
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
Mool mantra if you read it up to Gurprasad and this is what they say is Mool mantra but also you have to understand including the Bihari up to Nanak Hosee Bee Sach it has one hundred and eight Akshar, Naad otherwise it so,
Mool mantra,如果你读到 Gurprasad,这就是他们所说的 Mool mantra,但你也必须理解,包括 Bihari 一直到 Nanak Hosee Bee Sach,它有 108 个 Akshar,Naad,否则它就这样,
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
Ashkar Naad is,
Ashkar Naad 是,
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
including the Bihari up to Nanak Hosee Bee Sach it has one hundred and eight Akshar, Naad otherwise it so,
包括从 Bihari 到 Nanak Hosee Bee Sach,它有 108 个 Akshar,Naad,否则它就是这样,
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
Ashkar Naad is,
Ashkar Naad 是,
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
Unnis Sou Chabbis, nineteen twenty-six English played a trick with the Sikhs to totally deplete them of their spiritual power they did something with the Anand Sahib and they made certain kind of Rehit Maryada in nineteen twenty-five they gave us the elected office of a SGPC and they took away from us the selected Gurmath. Otherwise according to Gurmath a Granthee cannot sit in the (?) of Siri Guru Granth until he is not (?) You cannot give Amrit (?), you can be questioned on personal and impersonal life and you have to be questioned that way before you resume any act to serve the Siri Guru that is Rehit Maryada.
Unnis Sou Chabbis,1926 年,英语对锡克人耍了一个花招,要把他们的灵性力量彻底抽干,他们对《极乐颂》动了手脚,在 1925 年制定了某种 Rehit Maryada,他们给了我们一个选举产生的 SGPC 职位,却从我们手里夺走了精选的 Gurmath。否则按照 Gurmath,一个诵典者在没有(?)之前不能坐在《圣格兰特经》的(?)上。你不能给甘露(?),你可以在个人和非个人生活上被质询,在你恢复任何服务《圣格兰特经》的行为之前,你必须以那种方式被质询,这就是 Rehit Maryada。
But unfortunately now we want to rule with majority but I can assure your time is changing we will rule with the selected Brahmgiani and Guru Dharma, Sikh Dharma and the Panth Khalsa will be served by people of higher consciousness of boldness, of courage, of sacrifice and of radiance.
但不幸的是,现在我们要以多数来统治,但我可以向你保证,时代正在改变,我们将由精选的梵智者来统治,Guru Dharma、锡克正法和卡尔萨将由更高意识、更大胆、更有勇气、更懂牺牲、更有光芒的人来服务。
Student: You said Anand Sahib should not jump from the fifth Pauri to the fortieth Pauri what is the (?) have to say about this?
学生:你说过《极乐颂》不应该从第 5 小节跳到第 40 小节,(?)对此有什么要说的?
and of radiance.
以及光芒。
Student: You said Anand Sahib should not jump from the fifth Pauri to the fortieth Pauri what is the (?) have to say about this?
学生:你说过《极乐颂》不应该从第 5 小节跳到第 40 小节,(?)对此有什么要说的?
YB: We have told them and they said we will consider. They are unable to decide it, they understand it, they tell us all right you do what you do, don't bug us but we are bugging them constantly. Don't misunderstand we have told them that this is a very fundamental question American Sikh and Canadian Sikhs and the Western Sikhs have raised it very well it should be well considered. They say well, we are going to call Gurmath Prachar Sabha and then we will come and you come there and when you explain there and then we will have a Gurmath and then we will change it for the time being. Let us do what we are doing and let you do what you are doing?
YB:我们已经告诉过他们,他们说我们会考虑。他们无法决定,他们明白,他们对我们说好吧,你们做你们的,别来烦我们,但我们一直在烦他们。别误会,我们已经告诉过他们,这是一个非常根本的问题,美国锡克人、加拿大锡克人和西方锡克人把它提得非常好,应该好好考虑。他们说好吧,我们要召集 Gurmath Prachar Sabha,然后我们会来,你也来那里,当你在那里解释,然后我们就会有 Gurmath,然后我们暂时会改它。让我们做我们正在做的,让你们做你们正在做的?
Student: (-----)YB: What?
学生:(-----)YB:什么?
Student: (-----)
学生:(-----)
YB: Ah?
YB:啊?
Student: (-----)
学生:(-----)
Student Two: For yoga more important than Kirtan there is also (?) morning is more important for yoga?
学生二:对瑜伽来说比 Kirtan 更重要,早上对瑜伽也更(?)重要?
YB: Hey there should no dispute about this yoga business. You don't want to plough the land don't do it.
YB:嘿,这个瑜伽的事不该有争议。你不想耕这块地,就别耕。
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
is more important for yoga?
对瑜伽更重要?
YB: Hey there should no dispute about this yoga business. You don't want to plough the land don't do it.
YB:嘿,这个瑜伽的事不该有争议。你不想耕这块地,就别耕。
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
You are sick, you are fat and you cannot circulate the body and you do not want to prepare this Mandir, Harimandir to make the Guru set in therefore yoga is no good to you and I said don't do it then have back pain, be sick get arthritis and you know all those kind of problems. Yoga is not yoga is to make you prepare you to unite to the consciousness where you can sit comfortably and meditate and chant Nam that's all it's so simple. Don't make a issue out of it because it's never a issue. Dekho Na you sit three hours and chant Nam your mind is not with you for ten minutes then what is the use of that, that Kriya?
你病了,你胖了,身体循环不起来,你也不想把这个 Mandir、Harimandir 准备好,让 Guru 安住其中,所以瑜伽对你没用,我说那就别做了,然后背痛、生病、得关节炎,你知道那一堆问题。瑜伽不是……瑜伽是要让你准备好,去与意识合一,让你能舒舒服服地坐着,冥想,唱诵 Nam,就这些,就这么简单。别把它搞成一件事,因为它从来就不是一件事。Dekho Na,你坐三个小时唱诵 Nam,你的心智连十分钟都不跟着你,那这个 Kriya 有什么用?
What we prepare is, what we prepare people to chant with through Kundalini yoga with Guru Ram Das says Kundalini Surji it's not something that you don't understand it's your problem.
我们准备的是,我们通过昆达里尼瑜伽(Kundalini Yoga)把人准备好去唱诵,Guru Ram Das 说 Kundalini Surji,这不是你不懂的东西,那是你的问题。
people to chant with through Kundalini yoga with Guru Ram Das says Kundalini Surji it's not something that you don't understand it's your problem.
通过昆达里尼瑜伽把人准备好去唱诵,Guru Ram Das 说 Kundalini Surji,这不是你不懂的东西,那是你的问题。
We just prepare people towards the unpower of Guru Mantar Wahe Guru. We used it as a tool, our ultimate beginning and end is to propagate Nam into every rom, rom of every Guru Sikh. We use Sadhana also a tool, we do exercise in the morning to prepare ourself so that when we sit in the Kirtan and we take the Hukam for a Guru we should be in a perfect attunement with the atmosphere. If somebody can do it without it he is more fortunate than us, we are willing to admit that.
我们只是把人准备好,朝向 Guru Mantar Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo 的力量。我们把它当作一个工具,我们最终的开端与终点,是把 Nam 传扬到每一个 Guru Sikh 的每一根毛孔、每一根毛孔里。我们也把 Sadhana 当作工具,我们早上做练习,是为了准备好自己,这样当我们坐在 Kirtan 里、为 Guru 接受 Hukam 时,我们应当与整个氛围完美调频。如果有人不用这些就能做到,他比我们更幸运,我们愿意承认这一点。
But we have to prepare very, very raw material and bring it to the feet of the Guru and we are using two tools, white Tantric and Kundalini yoga and we teach that in university, we teach in seminars and we teach everywhere. And among them we make people to feel interested towards Nam Simran and then they come to the Guru and then from Guru they become the Sikhs and from Sikh they become the Khalsa's that's how it is going, happening at this moment.
但我们必须把非常、非常粗糙的材料准备好,带到 Guru 的脚下,我们使用两个工具,白谭崔(white Tantric)和昆达里尼瑜伽,我们在大学里教,我们在研讨会上教,我们到处都教。而在其中,我们让人对 Nam Simran 产生兴趣,然后他们来到 Guru 面前,然后从 Guru 他们成为 Sikh,从 Sikh 他们成为 Khalsa,事情就是这样走的,此刻正在发生。
Student: (------)
学生:(------)
and then from Guru they become the Sikhs and from Sikh they become the Khalsa's that's how it is going, happening at this moment.
然后从 Guru 他们成为 Sikh,从 Sikh 他们成为 Khalsa,事情就是这样走的,此刻正在发生。
Student: (------)
学生:(------)
YB: Yeah even you can chant Wahe Guru being naked it will be all right but tell me who did it? So I like to study that man for my knowledge.
YB:是啊,就算你光着身子唱诵 Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo 也没问题,但告诉我,谁做到了?所以我倒想研究研究那个人,长长我的见识。
(Students laugh)
(学生们笑)
Student: What is the difference between a saint of Guru Nanak and Khalsa of Guru Gobind Singh?
学生:Guru Nanak 的圣徒和 Guru Gobind Singh 的 Khalsa 有什么区别?
YB: The child and the man that's the difference. Child didn't grow beard neither he had hair and Sikh of the Guru Gobind Singh recognized that it is the will of God.
YB:孩子和成年人,这就是区别。孩子没长胡子,也没有头发,而 Guru Gobind Singh 的 Sikh 认出了这是神的意志。
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
And the Sikh of Guru Nanak also believes in Akal Moorat and Sikh of Guru Gobind Singh also believes in Akal Moorat.
而 Guru Nanak 的锡克教徒也信仰 Akal Moorat,Guru Gobind Singh 的锡克教徒也信仰 Akal Moorat。
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
That's the difference.
这就是区别。
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
of Guru Nanak also believes in Akal Moorat and Sikh of Guru Gobind Singh also believes in Akal Moorat.
Guru Nanak 的锡克教徒也信仰 Akal Moorat,Guru Gobind Singh 的锡克教徒也信仰 Akal Moorat。
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
That's the difference.
这就是区别。
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
Dekho I want to tell you something leave this Hera Peri (?) bhahut hogaya I mean we have done it hanky-panky (?) disgracefully and we have brought lot of disgrace to the Guru we are now known as (?) and all that let us stop it. Let us live to the glory of the Khalsa and the glory of Guru Nanak. Dekho, so many Hindus used to come to Darbar Sahib this time I was shocked only few came. We are scaring people away. Somebody asked me this questioning Amrit Thari should go to Non-Amrit,
Dekho,我想告诉你们一件事,别再搞这些 Hera Peri(?)了,bhahut hogaya,我是说我们干了些偷偷摸摸(?)的事,很不光彩,我们给古茹带来了很多耻辱,我们现在被人叫作(?)之类的,让我们停下来吧。让我们活出卡尔萨的荣耀,活出 Guru Nanak 的荣耀。Dekho,以前有那么多印度教徒来金庙,这次我很震惊,只来了几个人。我们把人都吓跑了。有人问我这个问题,Amrit Thari 该不该去非 Amrit 那边,
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
That. Arey, what is that Amrit if it has not taught you to be loving, to be serving and to be humble?
那个。Arey,如果它没教会你去爱、去服务、去谦卑,那算什么 Amrit?
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
These, there are two people who are very difficult and they should not be in any Dharma, fanatic and lazy.
这些人,有两种人非常难办,他们不该待在任何正法里,狂热分子和懒人。
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
Student: The youth mission Khalsa (?) Sikh is not necessary have to be a Khalsa that's a Sikh and I have showed here what a (?)?
学生:青年使命卡尔萨(?)锡克教徒不一定非得是卡尔萨,那是锡克教徒,我在这里展示了什么是(?)?
YB: Dekho,
YB:Dekho,
(Students laugh)
(学生们笑)
The youth mission Khalsa (?) Sikh is not necessary have to be a Khalsa that's a Sikh and I have showed here what a (?)?
青年使命卡尔萨(?)锡克教徒不一定非得是卡尔萨,那是锡克教徒,我在这里展示了什么是(?)?
YB: Dekho,
YB:Dekho,
(Students laugh)
(学生们笑)
My simple answer is one who believes basically God is must believe whatever a God has given you and done to you should be taken as a (?), is that clearly understood? Next?
我简单的回答是,一个基本上信仰神的人,就必须相信神给你的一切、对你做的一切都该被当作(?),这一点清楚了吗?下一个?
Student: Is it true that the Guru Granth Sahib doesn't mention anything about the five K's then (?) Guruji can be call as (?) Khalsa?
学生:圣格兰特经里真的没提到五 K 吗,那么(?)Guruji 能被称为(?)卡尔萨吗?
YB: The same Guru Gobind Singh who gave you the Guruship to the Siri Guru Granth also gave you Rehit. Is that true or not?
YB:那位把 Siri Guru Granth 的古茹之位传给你的 Guru Gobind Singh,也把 Rehit 传给了你。这是真的还是不是?
Students: Very true.
学生们:非常真。
The same Guru Gobind Singh who gave you the Guruship to the Siri Guru Granth also gave you Rehit. Is that true or not?
那位把 Siri Guru Granth 的古茹之位传给你的 Guru Gobind Singh,也把 Rehit 传给了你。这是真的还是不是?
Students: Very true.
学生们:非常真。
YB: You don't obey one Rehit and you obey Siri Guru Granth you don't belong to Siri Guru Granth. You are basically a liar, untruthful and a illegimate son of Guru Gobind Singh when you obey Mahat and disobey (?) and then propagate openly shame on you and let hell not take you into his consignment. You are such a rude unintelligent human being on the Earth. You insult the Guru back and forth and you have absolutely no decorum to be a Sikh, get out of this. This is most unfair, it's the most unfair you have created doubt about the Siri Guru Granth whether there should be Raag mala or not. What you have done?
YB:你不遵守一条 Rehit,却说自己遵从《圣格兰特经》,那你就不属于《圣格兰特经》。你基本上是个骗子、不诚实,是 Guru Gobind Singh 不合法的儿子——你遵从 Mahat,却不遵从(?),还公开传播,真可耻,让地狱都别收你。你就是地球上这么粗鲁、没脑子的人。你反反复复侮辱古茹,你完全没有做一个锡克该有的体统,滚出去。这是最不公平的,最不公平的是你对《圣格兰特经》制造了怀疑——到底该不该有 Raag mala。你都干了什么?
You have taken away the dignity of the Siri Guru Granth from the mind of people you are deceitful Sikhs.
你把《圣格兰特经》的尊严从人们心中夺走了,你们是欺骗人的锡克。
be Raag mala or not. What you have done?
该不该有 Raag mala。你都干了什么?
You have taken away the dignity of the Siri Guru Granth from the mind of people you are deceitful Sikhs.
你把《圣格兰特经》的尊严从人们心中夺走了,你们是欺骗人的锡克。
You have divided Khalsa, you are divided Sikh should we Mala, Mundmala, Rehit Mala, Raag Mala what the hell you are talking? Guru can do whatever he wants obey him and obey him thoroughly well. You think by analytical study and questioning you are becoming Sikh and you showoff what you are given in the record is so shameful, the western people really laugh. You are totally twisting the Rehit Maryada not only the history of the Khalsa, the history of the Sikh and the life of the Gurus. And it's very, very sickening. Whether you should eat meat or not? You should (?) at night sleep with the goat,
你分裂了卡尔萨,你是分裂的锡克——我们该不该有 Mala、Mundmala、Rehit Mala、Raag Mala,你到底在说什么鬼话?古茹想怎么做就怎么做,服从他,彻彻底底好好服从他。你以为靠分析研究和质疑就能成为锡克,你还炫耀,记录里给你的东西多么可耻,西方人真的在笑。你完全扭曲了 Rehit Maryada,不只是卡尔萨的历史、锡克的历史和古茹们的生平。这非常、非常令人作呕。你到底该不该吃肉?你该(?)晚上跟山羊睡在一起,
(Students laugh)
(学生们笑)
And kiss her and hug her and early, early morning bite her and eat her what do I have to lose but when it is a Lungar of the Guru and Sikh is suppose to only eat a Lungar of the Guru and when you do Ardas before the Guru you shall eat what is in the Lungar.
亲吻她、拥抱她,一大早、一大早咬她、吃她,我有什么可失去的?可当它是古茹的 Lungar,锡克只该吃古茹的 Lungar,当你在古茹面前做 Ardas,你就该吃 Lungar 里的东西。
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
(Students laugh)
(学生们笑)
Guru,
古茹,
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
Ah?
啊?
Student: Are the ten Gurus is God been incarnated all the Gurus incarnation?
学生:那十位古茹,神是不是化身成了所有古茹?是化身吗?
is in the Lungar.
就在 Lungar 里。
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
(Students laugh)
(学生们笑)
Guru,
古茹,
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
Ah?
啊?
Student: Are the ten Gurus is God been incarnated all the Gurus incarnation?
学生:那十位古茹,神是不是化身成了所有古茹?是化身吗?
YB: Gurus are Guru Arjan Partakhar and Guruship was achieved and Gurus were not bodies. Guru Nanak was alive we left him and we bowed to Angad the Guru. Try to understand? We do not worship the physical body or the personality,
YB:古茹是 Guru Arjan Partakhar,古茹之位是成就来的,古茹不是身体。Guru Nanak 活着的时候,我们离开了他,向 Angad 这位古茹顶礼。试着理解?我们不崇拜肉体或人格,
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
We don't have agreed with any Santh.
我们不认同任何 Santh。
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
I know it all Lekhen I; I cannot explain you that in English forgive me for that.
我全都知道,Lekhen 我;我没法用英语给你解释这个,请原谅我。
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
This Santh business should stop it's no good. Oh, dekho what is this sant, sant business?
这种 Santh 的事该停了,没好处。哦,dekho,这是什么 sant,sant 的事?
'Khalsa Mere Sat Guru Pura,'
「Khalsa Mere Sat Guru Pura,」
You are perfect the true Guru this is also what Guru Gobind Singh said, live it.
你是完美的,真正的古茹,这也是 Guru Gobind Singh 说过的,把它活出来。
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
This, this kind of people live. Prashad Diya,
这样的人活着。Prashad Diya,
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
Student: This is a combination of some questions what is (?) is it confined to Siri Guru Granth now,
学生:这是一些问题的组合,什么是(?)它现在只限于圣格兰特经吗,
YB: Oh, yeah, yeah.
YB:哦,是的,是的。
Student: (?) and kindly elaborate and what is (?) than professionalism, ah is it against Gurujis teaching today professional what do you actually mean by professional?
学生:(?)请详细说明,什么是(?)比专业精神,啊,这违背古茹今天的教导吗,专业,你说的专业到底是什么意思?
YB: Professionalism,
YB:专业精神,
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
than professionalism, ah is it against Gurujis teaching today professional what do you actually mean by professional?
比专业精神,啊,这违背古茹今天的教导吗,专业,你说的专业到底是什么意思?
YB: Professionalism,
YB:专业精神,
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
That's what professionalism is about it. Professional to be a doctor or to be expert or to be surgeon or to be a lawyer or to be a good businessman is a wonderful thing. Don't mix the two. Making Gurus preaching and teaching and not to be humble and bring it to a professional level in order to achieve your own Hommey or your own (?) is not admissible in the Gurmath.
这就是专业精神的含义。做一名医生,或成为专家,或成为外科医生,或成为律师,或成为一个好商人,是件极好的事。不要把两者混在一起。把古茹的讲道和教导,变得不谦卑,把它带到专业的层面,只为了达成你自己的我慢或你自己的(?),这在 Gurmath 里是不被允许的。
'Nanak Neech Kayai veechar,'
「Nanak Neech Kayai veechar,」
Sare people ask me why Nanak says Neech I, my explanation is when you do not Neech how you know the Uch, yeh realization hai. Guru Nanak is a realized human being in the perfection of Godhood. Yeh hai definition Guru Nanak (?). Nanak Jise Na Kohi Nahi.
所有人都问我,为什么 Nanak 说 Neech 我,我的解释是,当你不 Neech,你怎么知道 Uch,这是领悟。Guru Nanak 是一个在神性完美中开悟的人。这是 Guru Nanak(?)的定义。Nanak Jise Na Kohi Nahi。
Student: (-----)
学生:(-----)
YB: Oh pure,
YB:哦,纯粹的,
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
Student: Is it correct to receive or give money to (?) Guru Granth Sahib, this is the practice in our Temples these days? The Temple committee says an individuals and families to take to do (?)?
学生:接受或给(?)圣格兰特经钱,是对的吗,这是如今我们谒师所里的做法?谒师所委员会说,让个人和家庭来承担做(?)?
YB: It is very correct (?) Granthee Singh,
YB:这非常正确(?)诵典者,
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
Temples these days? The Temple committee says an individuals and families to take to do (?)?
如今谒师所里?谒师所委员会说,让个人和家庭来承担做(?)?
YB: It is very correct (?) Granthee Singh,
YB:这非常正确(?)诵典者,
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
It is very correct the Granthee Singh should have a better car. It is also very correct he should have a better house but over and above it is very correct he should be a real Granthee Singh not a,
这非常正确,诵典者应该有一辆更好的车。他也应该有一栋更好的房子,这同样非常正确,但最重要的是,他应该是一位真正的诵典者,而不是一个,
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
And that is the main problem. We need a priest who can really preach, who can love us, love our children inspire us and make us as the greatest Sikh of the Guru.
而这就是主要问题。我们需要一位真正能讲道的祭司,他能爱我们,爱我们的孩子,激励我们,把我们造就成古茹最伟大的锡克。
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
When he moves in the entire (?) Kuala Lumpur whatever this town is should recognize there goes the priest of the Sikhs.
当他走动时,整个(?)吉隆坡,不管这个镇叫什么,都应该认出,锡克的祭司来了。
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
In one Gurdwara you should have five priest at least one to teach Punjabi, one to teach Raag and Kirtan, one to teach you Siri Guru Granth, one to administrative take care of it.
在一座谒师所里,你至少应该有五位祭司,一位教旁遮普语,一位教 Raag 和 Kirtan,一位教你圣格兰特经,一位做行政,照管它。
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
He used to walk to the first (?) and wash the feet of the Sikhs and massage them ah, that much humble a Sikh of the Guru should be. And early in the morning when Sangat come they wanted to meet Guru Arjan there Guru Arjan again.
他过去常常走到第一个(?)那里,洗锡克人的脚,给他们按摩,啊,一个古茹的锡克人就该谦卑到那个程度。清晨灵性共修团体(Sadh Sangat)来的时候,他们想在那里见 Guru Arjan,又见 Guru Arjan。
Student: Is it true Guru Gobind Singh ah, eight was (?), is it true Guru Gobind Singh has (?)?
学生:这是真的吗,Guru Gobind Singh 啊,第八个是(?),Guru Gobind Singh 真的有(?)吗?
they wanted to meet Guru Arjan there Guru Arjan again.
他们想在那里见 Guru Arjan,又见 Guru Arjan。
Student: Is it true Guru Gobind Singh ah, eight was (?), is it true Guru Gobind Singh has (?)?
学生:这是真的吗,Guru Gobind Singh 啊,第八个是(?),Guru Gobind Singh 真的有(?)吗?
YB: We normally don't discuss the Gurus but we can discuss the history. Our history is (?) and so false in certain ways and written by certain people of certain consciousness we do not believe what has been alleged in certain areas. And we have a perfect research about it, it is not true. Guru Gobind Singh who can throw a arrow from Moti Ka Bhag Gurdwara and to ah, Lal Kila did not need (?) to do that and all that illustration which has been given his, in itself is very misleading. Guru Gobind Singh lived to Rehit himself and preached Rehit himself and said
YB:我们通常不讨论古茹们,但我们可以讨论历史。我们的历史(?),在某些方面是假的,是由某些意识状态的某些人写出来的,某些领域里那些所谓的说法我们不相信。我们对它有完整的研究,那不是真的。Guru Gobind Singh 能从 Moti Ka Bhag 谒师所(Gurdwara)射出一支箭,射到啊,Lal Kila,他不需要(?)去做那件事,而所有那些加在他身上的说法,本身就是极大的误导。Guru Gobind Singh 自己遵守卡尔萨行为守则(Rehit),自己宣讲 Rehit,并且说
'Rehit Piare Mohe Ko Sikh Piaaraa Naaheh. '
「Rehit Piare Mohe Ko Sikh Piaaraa Naaheh.」
itself is very misleading. Guru Gobind Singh lived to Rehit himself and preached Rehit himself and said
本身就是极大的误导。Guru Gobind Singh 自己遵守卡尔萨行为守则(Rehit),自己宣讲 Rehit,并且说
'Rehit Piare Mohe Ko Sikh Piaaraa Naaheh. '
「Rehit Piare Mohe Ko Sikh Piaaraa Naaheh.」
So anything by the modern writers and by the old writers dedicated to Guru Gobind Singh to prove him in a ordinary man is very unfortunate. They did it under the influence of the foreign powers and they did it under the influence to confuse the Sikhs. I regret that occurring but I think in our own consciousness we understand it is not true. There is a modern book where Guru Amar Das fried in the frying pan the fish. Now where is the frying pan those days?
所以,现代作家和旧作家中那些专门拿 Guru Gobind Singh 来证明他不过是个普通人的人,是非常不幸的。他们是在外国势力的影响下这么做的,是在搅乱锡克人的影响下这么做的。发生这种事我很遗憾,但我认为在我们自己的意识里,我们明白那不是真的。有一本现代的书,说 Guru Amar Das 在煎锅里炸鱼。那个年代哪来的煎锅?
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
It means that he didn't pull of the eyes of the fish out.
意思是说,他没有把鱼的眼睛挖出来。
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
But there are people who are doing it there is a great man my own professor (?) Singh he read about Guru Teg Bahadur it's a very, very shameful thing but he did it to get some credential and some personal benefits out of it but actually he totally twisted the history and mislead the Sikh nation. That's why we are trying to research the Sikh history and we will come out with facts.
但确实有人在这么做,有一位大人物,我自己的一位教授(?)Singh,他读到关于 Guru Teg Bahadur 的东西,那是非常、非常可耻的事,但他这么做是为了捞点资历、捞点个人好处,可实际上他完全扭曲了历史,误导了锡克民族。这就是为什么我们在努力研究锡克历史,我们会拿出事实来。
he totally twisted the history and mislead the Sikh nation. That's why we are trying to research the Sikh history and we will come out with facts.
他完全扭曲了历史,误导了锡克民族。这就是为什么我们在努力研究锡克历史,我们会拿出事实来。
Student: The youth of today are losing faith (?), he goes to the Temple to learn Punjabi but the priest chased them out, they used for a (?).
学生:今天的年轻人正在失去信仰(?),他去庙里学旁遮普语,但祭司把他们赶了出来,他们被用来(?)。
YB: Chase out that priest if you are youth. It is simple we need one sacrifice once you go for Gurbani priest chase you out, you chase him out matter will be settled once for all. No question about it.
YB:如果你是年轻人,就把那个祭司赶出去。很简单,我们需要一次牺牲,一旦你为 Gurbani 出手,祭司赶你出去,你就把他赶出去,事情就一劳永逸地解决了。毫无疑问。
Student: The youth goes to Church and learn about Christ the management doesn't pay any attention to all this the big interest is collecting money where does the youth go?
学生:年轻人去教堂,学习基督,管理层对这一切毫不在意,最大的兴趣是收钱,年轻人该去哪里?
YB: I have talked to Sikh, Sikh young people. I said there is a person who said he wanted to go to Church. The idea to go to Church was just because he was angry at Gurdwara they do not say anything, they do not welcome them, they do not love them and it is called subconscious anger. I will request the managements,
YB:我跟锡克人、锡克年轻人谈过。我说,有个人说他想去教堂。想去教堂的念头,只是因为他生谒师所的气,他们什么都不说,他们不欢迎他们,他们不爱他们,这叫做潜意识里的愤怒。我会请求管理层,
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
Student: Youth have prepared to follow the path of the Guru but there are so many interpretations to this path that many have left completely confused, how do we decide who to accept and who to reject?
学生:年轻人已经准备好跟随古茹的道路,但这条道路有太多解释,许多人被弄得完全糊涂,我们怎么决定该接受谁、该拒绝谁?
the Guru but there are so many interpretations to this path that many have left completely confused, how do we decide who to accept and who to reject?
古茹,但这条道路有太多解释,许多人被弄得完全糊涂,我们怎么决定该接受谁、该拒绝谁?
YB: Don't accept anybody whatever Guru Gobind Singh said that is the path that's it.
YB:谁也别接受,Guru Gobind Singh 说的就是道路,就这样。
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
There is no need of asking interpretation or following anybody and please don't think you have to follow me too. I do my own Rehit, I do my own Bani I am trying to be a Guru Sikh it is in the end whether I will be accepted or not. It is been to Guru and Guru alone. Don't follow any man follow your consciousness and follow your love for the Guru and be a Sikh with heart and head.
没有必要去问什么解释,也没有必要跟随任何人,请不要以为你们也必须跟随我。我守我自己的 Rehit,我念我自己的 Bani,我在努力做一个古茹的锡克,到最后我是否会被接受,那是由古茹、只由古茹决定。不要跟随任何一个人,跟随你的意识,跟随你对古茹的爱,用真心和头脑做一个锡克。
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
'Papa why should we get hurt? ' Don't follow any man just follow Siri Guru Granth go by the Rehit given to you by Guru Gobind Singh and be the Khalsa, period.
「爸爸,我们为什么要受伤?」不要跟随任何一个人,只跟随 Siri Guru Granth Sahib,遵照 Guru Gobind Singh 给你的 Rehit 去做,做卡尔萨,就这样。
Student: The American Sikh in which language do they speak if in English why not in Punjabi, if it's in Punjabi why not in English?
学生:美国锡克人说什么语言,如果说英语,为什么不说旁遮普语,如果说旁遮普语,为什么不说英语?
(Students laugh)
(学生们笑)
Student: The American Sikh in which language do they speak if in English why not in Punjabi, if it's in Punjabi why not in English?
学生:美国锡克人说什么语言,如果说英语,为什么不说旁遮普语,如果说旁遮普语,为什么不说英语?
(Students laugh)
(学生们笑)
YB: Mostly, mostly when we recite the Siri Guru we recite in the language it is written and because their national language is English normally they talk between themself English and when we talk in Punjabi they understand it fully well but they speak Thodi, Thodi. And we are trying that people who are in France speak in French, people are in Spain should speak in Spanish, people in Brazil and in Portugal be in Portuguese, we are not going to stop Gurus words and binding down to any language, any area caste, creed, or religion or a region.
YB:大多数时候,我们诵读《圣格兰特经》时,用的是它写成的语言,而因为他们的国语通常是英语,他们彼此之间一般说英语,当我们用旁遮普语说话时,他们完全听得懂,但他们说得少,说得少。我们正在努力让在法国的人说法语,在西班牙的人说西班牙语,在巴西和葡萄牙的人说葡萄牙语,我们不会停止古茹的话语,也不会把它绑在任何语言、任何地区、种姓、信条、宗教或地域上。
We will spread the Guru Mantra Wahe Guru and we will spread the teaching of Guru Gobind Singh in every language in every area in every region with all our heart and head to our last breath.
我们会传播古茹曼陀罗 Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo,我们会用每一种语言、在每一个地区、每一个地域,全心全意、用尽头脑,直到最后一口气,传播 Guru Gobind Singh 的教导。
Student: Can we now little more about Sikhs in America and particular Los Angeles also the way of life?
学生:我们现在能不能再多了解一点美国的锡克人,特别是洛杉矶,还有他们的生活方式?
all our heart and head to our last breath.
全心全意、用尽头脑,直到最后一口气。
Student: Can we now little more about Sikhs in America and particular Los Angeles also the way of life?
学生:我们现在能不能再多了解一点美国的锡克人,特别是洛杉矶,还有他们的生活方式?
YB: Come to America and find them. We come here and find you out, let us stop moving with each other. What can I tell you about a Sikh, Guru can tell you? Nobody can tell anything about a Sikh? The relationship between a Sikh and the Guru and Guru and the Sikh is a direct one can't explain to you.
YB:来美国,自己去找他们。我们来到这里,把你们找出来,让我们别再彼此推来推去了。关于一个锡克人,我能告诉你什么,古茹能告诉你什么?没有人能说出一个锡克人是什么?一个锡克人和古茹、古茹和锡克人之间的关系是直接的,没法向你解释。
Student: In which year do you think the Raj (?)?
学生:你觉得 Raj 会在哪一年(?)?
(Students laugh)
(学生们笑)
YB: Very soon.
YB:很快。
(Students laugh)
(学生们笑)
Student: Why confusion in the mool mantra up to Gurprasad and Nanak hosee bhi sach?
学生:为什么 mool mantra 到 Gurprasad 和 Nanak hosee bhi sach 之间会有混乱?
YB: I have already explained this there is no confusion. Gurprasad Tak it is being said now but if in the previous record in history it is Nanak Hosee Bhi Sach. I am explaining to you it is the same confusion about Raag mala, it is same confusion about Anand Sahib, it is same Mool Mantar it was the British diplomatic policy. Because British was told that Sikh will recapture the Raj and they never wanted this. So they totally confused us spiritually and we are never come out of it. That's it.
YB:我已经解释过这个了,没有混乱。到 Gurprasad 为止,现在是这样说的,但如果看历史上先前的记录,是 Nanak Hosee Bhi Sach。我向你们解释,关于 Raag mala 也是同样的混乱,关于《极乐颂》也是同样的混乱,同样的 Mool Mantar,那是英国的外交政策。因为英国人被告知锡克人会夺回 Raj,他们从来不想这样。所以他们在灵性上把我们彻底搞乱了,我们一直没能走出来。就是这样。
Student: (-----)
学生:(-----)
YB: (Punjabi)
YB:(旁遮普语)
Raj and they never wanted this. So they totally confused us spiritually and we are never come out of it. That's it.
Raj,他们从来不想这样。所以他们在灵性上把我们彻底搞乱了,我们一直没能走出来。就是这样。
Student: (-----)
学生:(-----)
YB: (Punjabi)
YB:(旁遮普语)
Everybody knows what is correct. Sampradhayas go to Sampradhayas they will tell you and you go to the (?) they will dismiss you, why to create confusion?
每个人都知道什么是对的。Sampradhayas 去找 Sampradhayas,他们会告诉你,你去找(?),他们会把你打发走,为什么要制造混乱?
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
It's simple,
很简单,
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
It is a very simple logic,
这是非常简单的逻辑,
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
We have already made an appeal, so we don't want the Sikh community to be divided or confused and do what we do. Don't be confused about it.
我们已经发出过呼吁,所以我们不希望锡克社区分裂或困惑,去做我们所做的事。不要为此困惑。
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
Ek Ong Kar,
Ek Ong Kar,
(Students chant, Ek Ong Kar. ')
(学生们唱诵,Ek Ong Kar。)
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
Ek Ong Kar,
Ek Ong Kar,
(Students chant, 'Ek Ong Kar. ')
(学生们唱诵,「Ek Ong Kar。」)
Sat Nam,
Sat Nam,
(Students chant, 'Sat Nam. ')
(学生们唱诵,「Sat Nam。」)
Karta Purkh.
Karta Purkh。
(Students chant, 'Karta Purkh, Nirbhao, Nirvair, Akal Moorat, Ajoonee Saibhung')
(学生们唱诵,「Karta Purkh,Nirbhao,Nirvair,Akal Moorat,Ajoonee Saibhung」)
Ajoonee wait, wait, wait,
Ajoonee,等等,等等,等等,
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
Ajoonee, Saibhung
Ajoonee,Saibhung
(Students chant, 'Ajoonee Saibhung')
(学生们唱诵,「Ajoonee Saibhung」)
Gurprasad,
Gurprasad,
(Students chant, 'Gurprasad')
(学生们唱诵,「Gurprasad」)
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
Jap,
Jap,
(Students chant, 'Jap')
(学生们唱诵,「Jap」)
Aad Sach,
Aad Sach,
(Students chant, 'Aad Sach')
(学生们唱诵,「Aad Sach」)
Sach,
Sach,
(Students chant, 'Sach')
(学生们唱诵,「Sach」)
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
Hai Bhee Sach, Nanak Hosee Bhee Sach,
Hai Bhee Sach,Nanak Hosee Bhee Sach,
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
(YB & Students chant, 'Hai Bhey Sach, Nanak Hosee Bhey Sach')
(YB 和学生们唱诵,「Hai Bhey Sach,Nanak Hosee Bhey Sach」)
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
Boloji,
Boloji,
Students: (----)
学生们:(----)
Hai Bhee Sach, Nanak Hosee Bhee Sach,
Hai Bhee Sach,Nanak Hosee Bhee Sach,
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
(YB & Students chant, 'Hai Bhey Sach, Nanak Hosee Bhey Sach')
(YB 和学生们唱诵,「Hai Bhey Sach,Nanak Hosee Bhey Sach」)
(Punjabi)
(旁遮普语)
Boloji,
Boloji,
Students: (----)
学生们:(----)
YB: (Punjabi)
YB:(旁遮普语)
"Wahe Guru Ji Ka Khalsa,"
「Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo Ji Ka Khalsa,」
Student: "Wahe Guru Ji Ki Fateh. "
学生:「Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo Ji Ki Fateh。」
YB: (Punjabi)
YB:(旁遮普语)
(Students sing)
(学生们唱)

