现场视频
中英对照全文
(There is a translation of the lecture in French)
(这里有一份法文的讲座译文)
Ah ha, here. All right, now, we have a special treat from India today. We have Mr. R. B. Pandit here among us and we'll finish the class, he will talk to you, 'how the man in India for centuries, developed the wisdom and the science of soul. ' He's a Pandit, he's a journalist, businessman, hotelier, negotiator, philosopher and many, many things and he's a film producer, he's a director-producer and very successful. So we thought two days after the class, you can talk to him; maybe your acting department can be corrected.
啊哈,这里。好,今天我们有来自印度的特别嘉宾。R. B. Pandit 先生就在我们中间,课程结束前,他会来跟你们谈,「印度人几个世纪以来,是如何发展出智慧与灵魂/真我的科学的。」他是位学者(Pundit),也是记者、商人、旅馆经营者、谈判者、哲学家,还有许多许多身份,他还是电影制片人,是导演兼制片人,非常成功。所以我们想,课程结束两天后,你们可以跟他聊聊;也许你们那块演戏的部分能被纠正过来。
Know about today, faculty and facility of the human body is unique and it is equal in everybody. Some use the facility and faculty and expand from micro consciousness to mini-macro and by balancing their, the micro, which is unit to macro which is infinite, is realized and we change the caliber.
今天要知道,人体这个设施与官能是独一无二的,而且在每个人身上都是平等的。有些人用好这个设施与官能,从微观意识扩展到小宏观,通过平衡他们那微观的、即个体,与宏观的、即无限,从而领悟,我们也因此改变了格调。
With all the book knowledge and with all the character, if you do not have intuition and you do not develop intuitive caliber, repeat, 'intuitive caliber. '
带着满腹书本知识,带着全部的品格,如果你没有直觉,如果你不培养直觉的格调——再说一遍,「直觉的格调。」
Students: Intuitive caliber.
学生:直觉的格调。
YB: Again repeat, 'intuitive caliber. '
Yogi Bhajan:再重复一遍,「直觉的格调。」
Students: Intuitive caliber.
学生:直觉的格调。
YB: You cannot penetrate, your end will be within you.
Yogi Bhajan:你就无法穿透,你的尽头会停在你之内。
Intuitive caliber.
直觉的格调。
YB: Again repeat, 'intuitive caliber. '
Yogi Bhajan:再重复一遍,「直觉的格调。」
Students: Intuitive caliber.
学生:直觉的格调。
YB: You cannot penetrate, your end will be within you.
Yogi Bhajan:你就无法穿透,你的尽头会停在你之内。
You are born as saints; beautiful, innocent children of God. You have come by the very will of God, you are made in the image of God. As you have developed or you grow, you have been exploited by two institutions, which was supposed to serve you: one is state, other is religion. They both put it together and with your power, with your belief, they created crusade and wars. When you say, 'I am Italian' you forget you are a human; when somebody say, 'I am German' you forget you are a person; so is the French, so is the English, so is the Norwegian.
你生来就是圣徒,是神美丽而纯真的孩子。你是因神的意志而来,你是照着神的形象造的。随着你长大、成长,你被两个本该服务你的机构剥削了:一个是国家,另一个是宗教。它们两个合起来,用你的力量、用你的信仰,制造了十字军东征和战争。当你说「我是意大利人」,你忘了你是个人;有人说「我是德国人」,你忘了你是一个人;法国人如此,英国人如此,挪威人也如此。
We get totally involved in our bisections. Humanity always has been divided. It is changed, now it is a computer, phone and fax. There is a popular saying, 'telephone, telegram, telesikh. '
我们完全陷进自己的二分里。人类一直是被分割的。现在变了,现在是电脑、电话和传真。有句流行话,「电话、电报、电视。」
(Students' laughter)
(学生们笑)
You will know it everywhere, it takes seconds to go. Now we can sit in the middle of jungle and run a business and in next phase of the seven years of the change of Aquarius Age, you can see who you are talking to in the watch, and that person can see in his watch.
你会发现它无处不在,几秒钟就到。现在我们能坐在丛林中央做生意,在水瓶年代变化的七年中的下一阶段,你能在手表中看见你在和谁讲话,而那个人也能在他的手表里看见你。
in next phase of the seven years of the change of Aquarius Age, you can see who you are talking to in the watch, and that person can see in his watch.
在水瓶年代七年的变化的下一个阶段,你能在手表里看到你在跟谁说话,而那个人也能在他的手表里看到你。
I saw a movie, 'Peep into the Future. ' The man came, his car drove automatically, he came to the house, it park in the garage, he came out and robot thanked him and met him and talk to him, brought him in the chair, gave him a cup of tea and told him the soup he desired to be ready is absolutely warm, now does he want it? And when he said, 'yes,' he nodded yes. So, the computer went, that robot brought properly the soup, put it before the tray and said, "Your choice music is on, would you like to change it or is okay? "
我看过一部电影,叫《窥视未来》。那个人来了,他的车自动驾驶,他到家,车停进车库,他出来,机器人向他道谢,迎接他,跟他说话,带他到椅子上,给他一杯茶,告诉他他想喝的那份汤已经热好了,现在他想喝吗?当他说“想”,他点头说想。于是电脑运作,那个机器人端来了汤,妥妥地放在托盘前,说:“你选的音乐正在播放,你想换一首,还是这样就好?”
went, that robot brought properly the soup, put it before the tray and said, "Your choice music is on, would you like to change it or is okay? "
运作,那个机器人端来了汤,妥妥地放在托盘前,说:“你选的音乐正在播放,你想换一首,还是这样就好?”
Except that robot was not breathing, everything was normal. So, what will happen? You will have no fulfillment. You can, you can become a print within the print. The creative reach of your mental psyche will be taken away. When we were studying in school, we used to remember multiple and division by heart and in quick method, 'pandhra ek thom padnadua, thee pee apun thali chowdha, sat paanch... I mean, we could recite and understand the figures and their multiples and their divisions. Now, give anybody, say, wait a minute, you can't multiply three figures now, it is gone, it is finished. So, what you will do? What your creative sense will do?
除了那个机器人不呼吸,一切都正常。那会发生什么?你不会有满足感。你会、你会变成印花里的印花。你心智心识的创造性能及之处会被夺走。我们上学的时候,会用速算法把乘法和除法背下来——“pandhra ek thom padnadua,thee pee apun thali chowdha,sat paanch……”,我是说,我们能背诵,也能看懂数字、它们的倍数和它们的除法。现在,随便给谁,说,等一下,你现在连三位数都乘不出来,它没了,它完了。那你会怎么做?你的创造感会怎么做?
Creative sense will kill you and make you insane. Creative sense is creative sense.
创造感会杀了你,把你逼疯。创造感就是创造感。
finished. So, what you will do? What your creative sense will do?
它完了。那你会怎么做?你的创造感会怎么做?
Creative sense will kill you and make you insane. Creative sense is creative sense.
创造感会杀了你,把你逼疯。创造感就是创造感。
Once I was asked, I have to deal with a person, because those psychiatrists used to study with me in the UCLA. So, one of that, student of mine send me a student, and the guy had a very strange problem: He will sit down, mind you, he was a Chief Executive Officer, rich businessman, everything fine—wife, children, take a thing, all was there. He'll sit down and count the grass on the floor.
有一次有人要我处理一个人,因为那些精神科医生曾在加州大学洛杉矶分校跟我一起学习。所以,其中一个,我的学生,送了一个学生来,那家伙有个很奇怪的问题:他会坐下来,你听着,他是一位首席执行官,富有的商人,一切都好——妻子、孩子,要什么有什么,全都在。他会坐下来,数地板上的草。
I said, "What are you doing? "
我说:“你在干什么?”
He said, "I am counting how many leaves per square foot there are. "
他说:“我在数每平方英尺上有多少片叶子。”
He'll sit down and count the grass on the floor.
他会坐下来,数地板上的草。
I said, "What are you doing? "
我说:“你在干什么?”
He said, "I am counting how many leaves per square foot there are. "
他说:“我在数每平方英尺上有多少片叶子。”
Because he had everything done for him, he had nothing to do. And the creative intelligence, which make us from a child to grow to a man, is also responsible to make us old, sick, insensitive and destroy. God is three letters: generate, organize, deliver or destroy. So, there's no reason for you to disbelieve that nobody ever kills you, you kill yourself; nobody can make you rich, you make yourself rich; nobody can make you happy, you make yourself happy. Expand, elevate, your horizon will become big; you will know more, you will be happy. Contract, isolate, cry and die, choice is yours.
因为他一切都有人替他做,他什么也不用做。而那股创造的智力,那个让我们从孩子长成大人、也同样负责让我们变老、生病、麻木、毁灭的力量。神是三个字母——生成、组织、交付或毁灭。所以,你没有理由不相信:没有人杀你,是你杀你自己;没有人能让你富有,是你让你自己富有;没有人能让你快乐,是你让你自己快乐。扩展、提升,你的视野就会变大;你会知道得更多,你会快乐。收缩、孤立、哭泣、死去,选择在你。
If you are old and you are not graceful, if you are graceful and you don't leave behind a legacy, your visit to planet Earth is useless, you mean nothing. Therefore, that is why we take that oath. Today you can take that oath with me. Raise your hand, right, right hand, right and 'I am not a woman. '
如果你老了却不优雅,如果你优雅却没有留下传承,你来地球这一趟就白费了,你什么都不是。所以,我们才发那个誓。今天你可以和我一起发这个誓。举起手,右手,右手,右——然后说:「我不是女人。」
Students: I am not a woman.
学生:我不是女人。
YB: I am not a man.
YB:我不是男人。
Students: I am not a man.
学生:我不是男人。
YB: I am not a person.
YB:我不是一个人。
Students: I am not a person.
学生:我不是一个人。
am not a woman. '
我不是女人。」
Students: I am not a woman.
学生:我不是女人。
YB: I am not a man.
YB:我不是男人。
Students: I am not a man.
学生:我不是男人。
YB: I am not a person.
YB:我不是一个人。
Students: I am not a person.
学生:我不是一个人。
YB: I am not myself.
YB:我不是我自己。
Students: I am not myself.
学生:我不是我自己。
YB: I am a teacher.
YB:我是一位老师。
Students: I am a teacher.
学生:我是一位老师。
YB: You know what that means? Beyond all these faculties, you will only give duty, as a teacher what it should be. Teacher is a forklift, who has to pick up the spirit of the person, raise it and let it go. Now, now you have liked me very much, right? Now we'll do what we have to do. Is it okay?
YB:你知道那是什么意思吗?超越所有这些官能,你只给出职责,给出老师该给的那样。老师是叉车,要把这个人的精神托举起来、抬高,然后放它走。现在,现在你们很喜欢我了,对吧?现在我们来做我们该做的事。可以吗?
Students: Yes sir.
学生:可以,先生。
YB: Now listen. In this exercise you will go through, heavily, muscular convulsions. Ladies can understand and that will be like menstruation, nothing will happen but feeling will be like that. Men will go, some of you through ejaculation if you do not properly control your energy.
YB:现在听好。在这个练习里,你会经历剧烈的肌肉抽搐。女士能理解,那会像来月经,什么也不会发生,但感觉会像那样。男士会经历——如果你们没有恰当地控制自己的能量,你们中的一些人会射精。
(Students laugh)
(学生笑)
It is my duty to inform you before it. Therefore understand, nothing will happen if you control your breathing as we tell you to, understand that?
我有责任在事前告诉你们。所以要明白,如果你按我们说的去控制呼吸,什么也不会发生,明白吗?
Students: Yes sir.
学生:明白,先生。
inform you before it. Therefore understand, nothing will happen if you control your breathing as we tell you to, understand that?
在事前告诉你们。所以要明白,如果你按我们说的去控制呼吸,什么也不会发生,明白吗?
Students: Yes sir.
学生:明白,先生。
YB: Yesterday some of you started flying, that was not a intended thing. Yes, your body will become light like a air and you will rise from the earth, but why we want to do that? We want to enjoy ourself here.
YB:昨天你们有些人开始飘了,那不是有意安排的事。是的,你的身体会变得像空气一样轻,你会从地面升起,但我们为什么要那样做?我们想在这里享受自己。
All right. Now, you see this both hands equal and elbows with the ribcage, perfect. Put your eyes, nine parts closed at the tip of your nose and look at that tip, and breathe long and deep.
好。现在,看,双手平齐,手肘贴着肋骨,很好。眼睛九分闭,放在鼻尖上,看着那个尖端,然后深长地呼吸。
(Students laugh)
(学生笑)
We have not yet started, you have started laughing, wait, wait, wait, in the middle you can't.
我们还没开始,你们就先笑了,等等、等等、等等,中途你们不能笑。
Just please, breath long, deep and conscious breathing; not automatic, not one breath automatic, breathe consciously.
请只是深长地、有觉知地呼吸;不是自动的,不是一次自动的呼吸,要有觉知地呼吸。
Shakti Mantra, Guru Das Kaur's.
夏克提曼陀罗,Guru Das Kaur 的。
We are going to give you a music. Start doing it calm and quiet and settled. Breathe deep, hold, breathe out, spine straight, posture good.
我们要给你一段音乐。开始做,平静、安静、安定。深吸气,屏息,呼气,脊柱挺直,姿势摆好。
(The tape, 'Adi Shakti, Adi Shakti... ' is played)
(放带子:「Adi Shakti, Adi Shakti……」)
YB (talks over the tape): Silence. Breathe, breathe deep. Utter. From the navel. Speak from the navel. From the navel, pull it from the navel. From the navel, you have one-minute.
YB(在带子上说话):安静。呼吸,深深呼吸。出声。从丹田。从丹田讲话。从丹田,从丹田把它拉出来。从丹田,你有一分钟。
Breathe, breathe deep. Utter. From the navel. Speak from the navel. From the navel, pull it from the navel. From the navel, you have one-minute.
呼吸,深深呼吸。出声。从丹田。从丹田讲话。从丹田,从丹田把它拉出来。从丹田,你有一分钟。
(The tape stops)
(带子停)
YB: Inhale, hold the breath. Now we are going to the Guru Gayatri, they are eight stoke; from the navel point, please try your best. Breathe out. Speak from the navel. Steady. Without intuition, there is no other than confusion and in confusion man is weak.
YB:吸气,屏住呼吸。现在我们要进入 Guru Gayatri,它们是八个音;从丹田,请尽你所能。呼气。从丹田讲话。稳住。没有直觉,就只有混乱,而在混乱中人是软弱的。
(The tape, 'Har, Har, Har, Har, Gobinde... ' is played)
(放带子:「Har, Har, Har, Har, Gobinde……」)
YB (talks over the tape): Loud and clear. Steady. Break the barriers. From the navel.
YB(在带子上说话):响亮而清楚。稳住。打破那些障碍。从丹田。
(The tape stops)
(带子停)
YB: Inhale deep, deep; contract the body to every millimeter. With a cannon fire, fire it out. Inhale deep, hold tight and now contract the spine all the way up, fire out. Inhale deep and now from the base of the navel point, you sing this most beautiful song. Exhale.
YB:深深吸气,深之又深;收缩身体,每一毫米都收紧。用炮筒式,把它轰出去。深吸气,紧紧屏住,现在把脊柱自下而上全部收紧,轰出去。深吸气,现在从丹田的根部,你唱这首最美的歌。呼气。
(The tape, 'Sat Nam Wahe Guru... ' is played)
(放带子:「Sat Nam Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo……」)
(Students sing along with the tape)
(学生跟着带子唱)
YB (talks over the tape): Silence.
YB(在带子上说话):安静。
Breathe long and deep, as much you can hold. Breathe long, hold long, exhale deep. Sit steady, control your spine. Take the help of a proper mechanical breath.
深长地呼吸,能屏多久就屏多久。深长地呼吸,长久屏息,深深呼气。坐稳,控制你的脊柱。借助正确、有机制感的呼吸。
(The tape stops)
(带子停)
you can hold. Breathe long, hold long, exhale deep. Sit steady, control your spine. Take the help of a proper mechanical breath.
能屏多久就屏多久。深长地呼吸,长久屏息,深深呼气。坐稳,控制你的脊柱。借助正确、有机制感的呼吸。
(The tape stops)
(带子停)
YB: Inhale deep, squeeze the spine per vertebra, all the way up with the hand; make the hands like iron fist. Exhale. Inhale deep again, do the same tight, let it go. Inhale deep, bring back to the original posture and sing.
YB:深吸气,一节一节地挤压脊柱,用手一路往上;双手握成铁拳。呼气。再深吸气,同样地收紧,放开。深吸气,回到原来的姿势,然后唱。
(Students sing, 'Chatr Chakr Vartee... ')
(学生唱:「Chatr Chakr Vartee……」)
YB (talks over the tape): Open up the chakras, loud and clear from the navel. Keep up. Be conscious. You go in silence. Make the O of your mouth, breathe deep and exhale through the nostrils.
YB(在磁带播放时说话):打开脉轮,从丹田大声、清楚地唱出来。跟上。保持觉知。你在静默中进入。把嘴张成 O 形,深吸气,从鼻孔呼气。
(Students stop singing)
(学生停止唱诵)
YB: Breathe deep through the mouth, breathe deep through the nose, get rid of the diseases. Give your body the prana and enrich yourself; come on, come on.
YB:用嘴深吸气,用鼻子深吸气,把疾病赶出去。给你的身体普拉纳,让自己富足起来;来,来。
Pavan, Pavan.
Pavan,Pavan。
Invoke your power, concentrate.
唤起你的力量,专注。
Side B
B 面
(The tape, 'Pavan, Pavan... ' is played)
(播放磁带《Pavan, Pavan……》)
YB (talks over the tape): Now sing.
YB(在磁带播放时说话):现在唱。
(Students sing along with the tape)
(学生跟着磁带唱诵)
(The tape stops)
(磁带停止)
(Students stop singing)
(学生停止唱诵)
YB: Inhale. Bring your hands together in the center of your heart center, exhale. Inhale deep, let us do the prayer.
YB:吸气。双手合在心轮中央,呼气。深吸气,我们来做祈祷。
(The tape, 'Ardas Bhai, Ram Das Guru... ' is played)
(播放磁带《Ardas Bhai, Ram Das Guru……》)
hands together in the center of your heart center, exhale. Inhale deep, let us do the prayer.
双手合在心轮中央,呼气。深吸气,我们来做祈祷。
(The tape, 'Ardas Bhai, Ram Das Guru... ' is played)
(播放磁带《Ardas Bhai, Ram Das Guru……》)
YB (talks over the tape): Please whistle.
YB(在磁带播放时说话):请吹口哨。
(Students whistle)
(学生吹口哨)
(The tape stops)
(磁带停止)
(Students stop whistling)
(学生停止吹口哨)
YB: Inhale deep, deep. Now squeeze your spine from down, all the way to the lower and the middle and the top and neck and C-1. Carry the action by strength. Exhale. Again inhale deep, do the same and pull the navel in. Let it go. Inhale deep again. This time put all the weight on the hands and then squeeze the spine, chin in, chest out, relax. Okay, we had it.
YB:深吸气,深深地吸。现在从下往上挤压你的脊柱,一直到下段、中段、上段和颈部以及 C-1。用力量带动这个动作。呼气。再深吸气,做同样的动作,把丹田收进去。放开。再深吸气。这一次把全部重量压在双手上,然后挤压脊柱,下巴收进来,胸膛挺出去,放松。好,我们做完了。
Student: (------)
学生:(------)
(Yogi Bhajan laughs)
(Yogi Bhajan 笑了起来)
YB: Okay, we don't want to repeat the mistake of yesterday. You know, it is not very holy to become holy overnight. It's good to be slow and steady and one day's mistake should not be repeated again. You have done very well. And technically speaking, you are very open and very pretty looking rainbow, as far as spirituality is concerned. Now, let us sing that.
YB:好,我们不想重复昨天的错误。你知道,一夜之间变得神圣,并不怎么神圣。慢而稳是好的,一天犯过的错不该再犯。你做得很好。从技术的角度说,就灵性层面而言,你是一个很开放、很好看的彩虹。现在,我们来唱那个。
(The tape, 'On this day... ' is played)
(播放磁带《On this day……》)
YB (talks over the tape): Come on, come on, show the spirit.
YB(在磁带播放时说话):来,来,拿出精神来。
(The tape stops)
(磁带停止)
Now, let us sing that.
现在,我们来唱那个。
(The tape, 'On this day... ' is played)
(播放磁带《On this day……》)
YB (talks over the tape): Come on, come on, show the spirit.
YB(在磁带播放时说话):来,来,拿出精神来。
(The tape stops)
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YB: May the Mother Earth guide you as a mother for eternal, may the Heavenly Father bless you as father in eternal, may the Creator God creates in you the compassion and kindness and care, may you be blessed by your intuition and wisdom to be humble, so that, you can be served with grace, in bounty and bliss of God's wealth. Those of you who are born in the image, image of Almighty, may you develop in you the experience of that strength, courage and character, that you can see God in all, ever you feel or understand anything else. May your consciousness be pure and your character may be serving all where there is.
Yogi Bhajan:愿大地母亲如母亲般永恒地引导你,愿天父如父亲般永恒地祝福你,愿造物主神在你之内创造出慈悲、善良与关怀,愿你被你的直觉与智慧祝福而保持谦卑,如此,你才能在神的财富的丰盛与极乐中,被优雅地服务。你们那些按全能者形象所生的人,愿你们在自己之内培养出那份力量、勇气与品格的经验,让你们能在万物中看见神,无论你们感受或理解到任何其他东西。愿你的意识纯净,愿你的品格服务于一切有需要之处。
As God has blessed you, you be clearer today than yesterday and when tomorrow becomes today, may you have no fear, no prejudice, no smallness, but you must meet God face to face. And may God within you give you the strength, the glory and the grace.
正如神祝福了你,愿你今天比昨天更清明,当明天变成今天时,愿你无有恐惧、无有偏见、无有狭隘,而你必须与神面对面相遇。愿在你之内的神赐予你力量、荣耀与优雅。
Inhale deep. Sat.
深吸气。Sat。
Students: Sat Nam.
学生:Sat Nam。
YB: Sat.
Yogi Bhajan:Sat。
Students: Sat Nam. Sat Nam.
学生:Sat Nam。Sat Nam。
And may God within you give you the strength, the glory and the grace.
愿在你之内的神赐予你力量、荣耀与优雅。
Inhale deep. Sat.
深吸气。Sat。
Students: Sat Nam.
学生:Sat Nam。
YB: Sat.
Yogi Bhajan:Sat。
Students: Sat Nam. Sat Nam.
学生:Sat Nam。Sat Nam。
YB: Bless you, bless you, bless you, bless you. Relax and come back on planet Earth, it is the same planet you belong to. Now, now I am going to give you to Mr. Pandit. He's going to talk to you something very wise.
Yogi Bhajan:祝福你,祝福你,祝福你,祝福你。放松,回到地球上,这还是你所属的那同一个星球。现在,现在我要把你们交给潘迪特先生。他要对你们讲一些非常有智慧的话。
Mr. Pandit: I'll sit here.
潘迪特先生:我坐这里。
Mr. Pandit: I do not know if what I am going to say is wise. After listening to Yogi Ji, I am fully humbled. This is my third visit in about four year to Yogi Ji and the first, to a full-scale discourse and a spiritual discourse, as I have seen this evening. Then I must, I must confess that I am most impressed and influenced about what I have seen today.
潘迪特先生:我不知道我要说的是否有智慧。听了 Yogi Ji 的话之后,我完全被折服了。这是我大约四年来第三次拜访 Yogi Ji,而今晚我第一次见到如此全面的一场讲说、一场灵性讲说。那么我必须,我必须承认,我对今天所见到的一切印象极为深刻、深受影响。
Yogi Ji said that I am a journalist, I think you all know what a journalist means. He's basically a pen pusher, he writes two or three lines, corrects it many times, refers to any number of dictionaries and paraphrases, reads all kinds of articles written by others and then produces a piece and appends his name to it. So, being a journalist is not necessarily a qualification for speaking to all of you.
Yogi Ji 说我是一名记者,我想你们都知道记者意味着什么。他基本上就是个摇笔杆子的,写两三行,改来改去很多遍,翻遍各种字典,换着说法改写,读遍别人写的各种文章,然后炮制出一篇东西,再把自己的名字签上去。所以,当记者并不一定就有资格对你们大家讲话。
(Students' laughter)
(学生们大笑)
a piece and appends his name to it. So, being a journalist is not necessarily a qualification for speaking to all of you.
炮制出一篇东西,再把自己的名字签上去。所以,当记者并不一定就有资格对你们大家讲话。
(Students' laughter)
(学生们大笑)
But as I was listening to Yogi Ji this evening, a thought struck to me, that since the source and the inspiration for what you have gathered here today and for the last so many days, is one or the other way, India and the teachings of the great Gurus of Sikhdom, something that has happened in the last four or five days in India and has become the dominant news last week, is perhaps a subject on which I may be able to speak a few words.
可是今晚听 Yogi Ji 讲的时候,我心里冒出一个念头:既然你们今天、也是过去这么多天所收获的内容,它的源头和灵感多多少少都来自印度,来自锡克教那些伟大古茹的教导,那么四五天前在印度发生、上周成为头条新闻的一件事,也许我可以就此说上几句。
What happened in the last few days was that, that on Monday, last Monday, that is on the eleventh, India exploded three bombs, atomic bombs. One of them was a hydrogen, thermonuclear hydrogen bomb, the same that The Soviet Union or the United States or China or France or United Kingdom possess. So, if you have not read that news because you all have been so busy these days with this devotional and spiritual conclave.
过去几天发生的事是,上周一,也就是十一号那天,印度爆炸了三颗炸弹,原子弹。其中一颗是氢弹,热核氢弹,跟苏联、美国、中国、法国或者英国拥有的那种一样。所以,如果你们没读到那条新闻,那是因为你们这些天一直忙着这场虔诚的、灵性的聚会。
United Kingdom possess. So, if you have not read that news because you all have been so busy these days with this devotional and spiritual conclave.
英国拥有的那种一样。所以,如果你们没读到那条新闻,那是因为你们这些天一直忙着这场虔诚的、灵性的聚会。
When you hear about it or read about it or when your relations, friends meet you and then talk to you and ask you that you know, you are inspired by some teachings from India; so how do you explain that a country associated with Gautam, Gautama Buddha, Mahatma Gandhi and the great Gurus of the Sikhdom, has now joined the nuclear race and produced the weapon of greatest possible destruction. Is India then, really a source for any kind of inspiration for anybody?
当你听说或者读到这件事,或者你的亲戚、朋友见到你,跟你聊起,问你:你知道,你是受印度某种教导的启发;那你要怎么解释,一个跟 Gautama Buddha、Mahatma Gandhi 和锡克教那些伟大古茹联系在一起的国家,如今却加入了核竞赛,造出了最具毁灭性的武器。那么印度,还真的是任何人任何一种灵感的源头吗?
the nuclear race and produced the weapon of greatest possible destruction. Is India then, really a source for any kind of inspiration for anybody?
核竞赛,造出了最具毁灭性的武器。那么印度,还真的是任何人任何一种灵感的源头吗?
Briefly, I'll deal with this. It is a fact that India has for last two thousand years, a tradition of peace and spiritual...spiritual subsistence. Buddhism went from India to Japan, to Thailand and to other countries of Southeast Asia. Even today, millions of Indians practice Buddhism. Mahatma Gandhi is a very revered figure in India and, and people like Martin Luther King who laid the campaign for equality, for the blacks in America, cited Mahatma Gandhi as his inspiration. The Japanese, who are the only people to have suffered from atomic bomb, have always looked to India, as a country of Mahatma Gandhi and of peace.
我简单谈一下这件事。事实是,印度在过去两千年里,一直有和平与灵性……灵性生活方式的传统。佛教从印度传到日本、泰国和东南亚其他国家。即便今天,还有数百万印度人修习佛教。Mahatma Gandhi 在印度是非常受敬仰的人物,而像 Martin Luther King 这样为美国黑人发起平权运动的人,也把 Mahatma Gandhi 称作自己的灵感来源。日本人,是唯一遭受过原子弹之苦的民族,他们一直把印度看作 Mahatma Gandhi 的国度,看作和平的国度。
The Japanese, who are the only people to have suffered from atomic bomb, have always looked to India, as a country of Mahatma Gandhi and of peace.
日本人,是唯一遭受过原子弹之苦的民族,他们一直把印度看作 Mahatma Gandhi 的国度,看作和平的国度。
A number of Hindu religion-oriented movements in the world are fuelled by Indian thought. So, in this context, I am sure, one of these days you are going to ask yourself, 'how does India relate to the bomb? ' Does India have any right to talk of spirituality or has it forsaken the teachings of Buddha, of Mahatma Gandhi and of the great Gurus whose teachings Yogi Ji has been expounding to you all and with which, you all have been so impressed.
世界上有许多以印度教为导向的运动,都是被印度思想推动的。所以在这个背景下,我相信,总有一天你会问自己:「印度和原子弹是什么关系?」印度还有没有资格谈灵性?还是它已经背弃了佛陀、圣雄甘地,以及那些伟大古茹的教导——Yogi Ji 一直在向你们阐述这些教导,你们也都深受触动。
I personally do not think that India is departing from any of these spiritual legacies, but the world, the real world is little bit different than what we would like to believe. Most of you would know, that at the close of the Second World War, two bombs were dropped on Japan. There are many people in America as well as in Japan and the rest of the world, who felt that the Japanese and the Germans and the Italians were already defeated, and there was no need to drop the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
我个人并不认为印度正在背离这些灵性传承,但这个世界,真实的世界,和我们愿意相信的样子有点不一样。你们大多数人大概知道,第二次世界大战结束时,两颗原子弹投在了日本。在美国、日本以及世界其他地方,有很多人觉得日本、德国和意大利早已战败,根本没有必要在广岛和长崎投下原子弹。
that the Japanese and the Germans and the Italians were already defeated, and there was no need to drop the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
日本、德国和意大利早已战败,根本没有必要在广岛和长崎投下原子弹。
But, there was a scientific community in the United States who felt, that an atomic bomb, which they had by that time developed, had to be tested for advancement of science and technology. Many of those scientists claimed that there would be fallouts in medicine, in computers and in other industrial technologies as a result of those explosions.
但在美国有一个科学界群体,他们觉得,他们那时已经研制出来的原子弹,必须试爆,以推动科学和技术的进步。那些科学家中有许多人声称,这些爆炸会在医学、计算机和其他工业技术上带来衍生成果。
We all know that The Soviet Union, as it then existed, became the second country to explode nuclear bombs. Soon thereafter, Britain joined. Then France and these countries among themselves almost formed a club, a nuclear club and tried to impose nonproliferation on other countries.
我们都知道,当时的苏联成了第二个试爆核弹的国家。不久之后,英国也加入了。然后是法国,这些国家彼此之间几乎组成了一个俱乐部,一个核俱乐部,并试图把不扩散强加给其他国家。
Now, most of you know that India is a very large country, has a population of nearly nine hundred million and it is acknowledged to be the world's largest democratic country. It is the home to Buddhism, it is the home to Sikhism, it is the birthplace of Mahatma Gandhi and also it is home to many, many religions including Christianity, Islam.
现在,你们大多数人知道,印度是一个非常大的国家,人口将近九亿,被公认为世界上最大的民主国家。它是佛教的家园,它是锡克教的家园,它是圣雄甘地的出生地,它也是许多许多宗教的家园,包括基督教、伊斯兰教。
Buddhism, it is the home to Sikhism, it is the birthplace of Mahatma Gandhi and also it is home to many, many religions including Christianity, Islam.
佛教,它是锡克教的家园,它是圣雄甘地的出生地,它也是许多许多宗教的家园,包括基督教、伊斯兰教。
When the nuclear bomb of these four countries was formed, China was already emerging as a big powerful country. China was being treated as an outcast nation. It was not recognized by most of the countries in the world—a few exceptions like France and India, of course recognized China. So, China on its own developed their own atomic bomb and a thermonuclear bomb, exploded them against the general opinion in the world; almost challenged the world at large and became a member of the nuclear club. Now, China is as large a country in terms of population or perhaps even bigger. It is a very powerful country; it is a neighbor of India. China and India have fought a border war.
当这四个国家的核弹形成时,中国已经崛起为一个强大的大国。中国当时被当作一个被排斥的国家。世界上大多数国家都不承认它——当然,法国和印度等少数例外承认中国。所以,中国靠自己发展出了自己的原子弹和热核弹,顶着世界上的普遍反对引爆了它们;几乎是在向整个世界发起挑战,并成了核俱乐部的一员。现在,就人口而言,中国是一个同样大的国家,甚至可能更大。它是一个非常强大的国家;它是印度的邻居。中国和印度打过一场边境战争。
in terms of population or perhaps even bigger. It is a very powerful country; it is a neighbor of India. China and India have fought a border war.
就人口而言,甚至可能更大。它是一个非常强大的国家;它是印度的邻居。中国和印度打过一场边境战争。
Until a week ago, there were reports from Washington, from New York, from London, from Paris, that, that China and North Korea were supplying nuclear technology as well as missile technology to Pakistan, which is our neighbor, an immediate neighbor, with whom unfortunately India has had to fight three wars in the last fifty years. And this was in face of India's resolute decision not to conduct any nuclear test. But when Pakistan almost defied the world opinion and produced missile, fired, they test-fired missile, which could only be aimed at India. I think, India had no choice, but to reactivate its nuclear program and give a demonstration of the technical know-how that it possessed.
直到一周前,还有来自华盛顿、纽约、伦敦、巴黎的报道说,中国和North Korea在向巴基斯坦提供核技术以及导弹技术,巴基斯坦是我们的邻居,紧邻的邻居,不幸的是,过去五十年里印度不得不和它打了三场战争。而当时印度已坚决决定不进行任何核试验。但当巴基斯坦几乎无视世界舆论,造出了导弹,发射了,他们试射了导弹,而这种导弹只可能对准印度。我认为,印度别无选择,只能重启它的核计划,展示它所掌握的技术知识。
at India. I think, India had no choice, but to reactivate its nuclear program and give a demonstration of the technical know-how that it possessed.
对准印度。我认为,印度别无选择,只能重启它的核计划,展示它所掌握的技术知识。
Now, as I said earlier, you all have been busy here with this very ennobling and redeeming spiritual activity. So, you may have for the time being escaped from the raging controversy and condemnation of India that is going on. And when you go back home, I am sure you will be confronted with this reality and questions will be asked about spiritualism, your involvement in it, your being a disciple of Yogi Ji and the bomb, the Indian bomb.
现在,正如我之前说的,你们所有人一直在这里忙于这项极其高贵、极具救赎意义的灵性活动。所以,你们可能暂时避开了正在进行的、对印度的激烈争论和谴责。而当你回到家时,我相信你会面对这个现实,会有人问你关于灵性、你对灵性的参与、你是Yogi Ji的弟子以及那枚炸弹、印度炸弹的问题。
I do not think, that the world at large has understood what has really happened in India. I do not think and many writers from the west, have in the last two days also expressed similar feelings that India is going to threaten anybody or disturb peace in the world. In fact, what will happen in the next ten days, fifteen days or the coming months, is that India will take very active part, together with United States to sign a complete 'Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty' and plead as India has been pleading for many years, for the complete annihilation of all nuclear weapons in the world.
我不认为,整个世界真正明白了印度到底发生了什么。我不认为,而且许多来自西方的作者,在这两天里也表达了类似的感受——说印度会去威胁谁、会搅乱世界和平。事实上,接下来十天、十五天,或者未来几个月里会发生的是:印度会与美国一道,非常积极地参与,签署一份完整的《全面禁止核试验条约》,并且像印度多年来一直在呼吁的那样,恳请彻底销毁世界上所有的核武器。
Test Ban Treaty' and plead as India has been pleading for many years, for the complete annihilation of all nuclear weapons in the world. This has been a stand of India since nineteen fifty.
《禁止核试验》……并且像印度多年来一直在呼吁的那样,恳请彻底销毁世界上所有的核武器。这是印度自 1950 年以来的立场。
And all though India had an underground test in nineteen seventy four and demonstrated to the world that it had the know-how to make bomb, it, it never used this option until last Monday. After Monday, two more tests were conducted on Wednesday, that is yesterday and the Government of India has announced that it will conduct no more tests.
尽管印度在 1974 年进行过一次地下试验,向全世界展示它掌握了制造炸弹的技术,它却一直把这张牌握在手里,直到上个星期一才动用。星期一之后,星期三,也就是昨天,又进行了两次试验,印度政府已经宣布,不会再进行更多试验。
So, going back to spirituality, what Yogi Ji has been teaching you, how India is a source of a lot of spiritual messages from India, I don't think he's affected. I said earlier that I was very impressed to see what happened here in this evening. Yogi Ji's, Yogi, Yogi Ji's instructive interpretation of wisdom and practicality, both for the soul and the body, I can vouch, I can vouch, but also tell you, at a time when people are gathering these days for sale conferences and commercial meetings and you know, meetings for of engineers, another that you gather here for spiritual intercourse, for the soul and the body.
所以,说回灵性,回到 Yogi Ji 一直在教你们的:印度是怎样一个灵性讯息的源头?我认为他并没有受到影响。我刚才说过,看到今晚这里发生的一切,我深受触动。Yogi Ji 对智慧与务实的讲解——既为灵魂/真我,也为身体——我可以作证,我可以作证,但我也要告诉你:在这个人们纷纷聚在一起开销售会议、商业会议、你知道,还有工程师会议的时候,你们聚在这里,是为了灵魂/真我与身体的灵性交流。
and commercial meetings and you know, meetings for of engineers, another that you gather here for spiritual intercourse, for the soul and the body. I am very happy to be here and thank you very much.
还有商业会议,你知道,还有工程师会议,而你们聚在这里,是为了灵魂/真我与身体的灵性交流。我很高兴能来到这里,非常感谢你们。
(Students applaud)
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YB: You know, let us put in a simple way. They exploded a atomic bomb, we exploded our mental bomb, pretty good. And we are very fortunate that we were consolidating on something universal and we want to know all the word, where it is. My personal feeling is, now nobody will talk about nuclear bomb and nuclear, nuclear war. When there are too many things, then nothing happens; when there are few things, that creates a war.
YB:你知道,让我们简单地说。他们引爆了一颗原子弹,我们引爆了我们的心智炸弹,挺不错。我们非常幸运,因为我们一直在一个普世的东西上不断巩固,我们想知道全世界都在哪里。我个人的感觉是,现在没人会再谈原子弹、核战争了。事情太多的时候,什么都不会发生;事情很少的时候,反倒会生出战争。
Actually Pandit Ji has not discussed something. I mean, it is not a question of believing or not believing. China is a dictatorship; it is not a democratic country and one can make, a man can make any decision they choose.
其实潘迪特吉还没有谈到某件事。我的意思是,这不是信或不信的问题。中国是一个独裁政权;它不是民主国家,一个人可以做出任何他想做的决定。
of believing or not believing. China is a dictatorship; it is not a democratic country and one can make, a man can make any decision they choose.
信或不信的问题。中国是一个独裁政权;它不是民主国家,一个人可以做出任何他想做的决定。
India is very unfortunate; it has to shelter Dalai Lama and Tibet on humanitarian basis. And China is the only threat we have, which doesn't want to give an inch to four million Tibetan refugees. Seeing their plight in danger, India was left with no choice to say, 'if you deal with us with negotiation, we can cross the table and we can discuss like friends; but if you start inhaling the population just like they are dust, you will be retaliated equally well. ' It may not be wise decision, but it is a honest duty of the host country to protect the refugees.
印度非常不幸;它出于人道主义必须庇护达赖喇嘛和西藏。而中国是我们唯一的威胁,它连一寸都不肯让给四百万西藏难民。看到他们身处险境,印度别无选择,只能说:“如果你们用谈判来对待我们,我们可以跨过谈判桌,像朋友一样讨论;但如果你们开始像吸灰尘一样吞噬人口,你们也会遭到同等的回击。”这可能不是明智的决定,但保护难民是东道国诚实的责任。
are dust, you will be retaliated equally well. ' It may not be wise decision, but it is a honest duty of the host country to protect the refugees.
是灰尘,你们也会遭到同等的回击。”这可能不是明智的决定,但保护难民是东道国诚实的责任。
Everywhere in the world, Dalai Lama has stated on the secular sovereignty we thrust. When the intelligence came, that China, out of this provocation with India, wants to isolate the entire population on the northern zone area, India and Indian people decided to go all the way to protect them. And they have let the world know, that they will do everything to prove honorable and protect those who have taken shelter. The most beautiful thing to rejoice today, this all has happened and we have just heard it. You all will be safe, let us care for our own atomic bomb in the tomorrow morning, get to our Sadhana.
在全世界,达赖喇嘛都声明了我们所坚持的世俗主权。当情报传来,说中国出于与印度的这番挑衅,想孤立北部地区的全部人口,印度和印度人民决定全力保护他们。他们让全世界知道,他们会做一切来证明自己光明磊落,保护那些前来寻求庇护的人。今天最值得欢喜的,就是这一切已经发生,而我们刚刚听到了。你们都会安全的,让我们关心自己的原子弹,明天早上,去做我们的萨达那(Sadhana)。
Say, we can do a molecular conscious confusion and then get out of the confusion for the sake of life. Get to technology that our inside is clearer than outside. Gather the intuition, so that there may not be any confusion and life may become clear, valid and successful. I always say things like this: 'with war, you cannot conquer the world; with spirit, you can. '
说,我们可以制造一场分子层面的意识混乱,然后为了生命而从混乱中走出来。去掌握那门技术——让我们的内在比外在更清晰。聚集直觉,这样就不会有任何混乱,生命会变得清晰、有价值、成功。我总是说这样的话:“靠战争,你无法征服世界;靠精神,你可以。”
and life may become clear, valid and successful. I always say things like this: 'with war, you cannot conquer the world; with spirit, you can. '
生命会变得清晰、有价值、成功。我总是说这样的话:“靠战争,你无法征服世界;靠精神,你可以。”
Axle of the earth has changed in nineteen ninety one, one degree. Circumstances, whether electromagnetic field, projection of the sun flare and earth equation, have already slowed down and change is inevitable. So, in first seven years, we all as a human race facing a problem. In next seven years, we are going to be really tested, We have to grow up to help each other, we have to become anchor of each other, we have to recognize on the sky we are stars and that makes the night. It is, it will be my joy and happiness and prayer, if tomorrow you have broad shoulders to carry that responsibility of love, love, love and the proof of that will be, you shall be grateful, serviceful and merciful.
一九九一年,地球的轴线变了一度。无论是电磁场、太阳耀斑的投射,还是地球的运行方程,环境都已经慢了下来,变化不可避免。所以,头七年里,我们整个人类都在面对一个问题。接下来的七年,我们将真正受到考验,我们必须成长起来去帮助彼此,我们必须成为彼此的依靠,我们必须认识到,我们正是天空中那造就了夜晚的星辰。如果明天你有宽阔的肩膀,能扛起那份爱、爱、爱的责任,那将是我的喜悦、幸福与祈祷,而它的证明就是:你会心怀感恩、乐于服务、充满慈悲。
Thank you very much, good night.
非常感谢,晚安。
(Students applaud)
(学生们鼓掌)
YB: Wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, thank you.
YB:Wah,wah,wah,wah,wah,谢谢。
Student: Wahe Guru.
学生:Wahe Guru, Whaa‑hay Guroo。

