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... What we are going to talk about?
……我们要谈的是什么?
Student: Mental initiation.
学生:心智点化。
YB: Mental initiation and your personality, right? How many people were not here yesterday? God, you were all missing? Ah?
YB:心智点化和你的人格,对吧?昨天有多少人不在这里?天哪,你们全都缺席了?啊?
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YB: Tomorrow is birthday present it today.
YB:明天是生日,今天就当礼物送给你。
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YB: Good.
YB:好。
So you got to do one thing, all of you who missed yesterday should come down and the tape will be run and you just initiate yourself with that. Pick it up.
所以你们得做一件事,昨天没来的所有人,都该过来,把录音放一遍,你们就用它给自己点化。拿起它。
Today we are talking about mental initiation, what was the last where we left?
今天我们谈的是心智点化,上次我们停在哪里了?
Student: And your personality.
学生:还有你的人格。
YB: And your personality, where we left last time?
YB:还有你的人格,上次我们停在哪里了?
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YB: Temperamental behavior is self destructive. Do you understand what is a temperamental behavior? Anybody in this class in United States can explain to me in a simple sentence, what is a temperamental behavior? Yes Sadhana Kaur, Siri Dharma Kaur come on you have smiled.
YB:情绪化的行为是自我毁灭的。你明白什么是情绪化的行为吗?这个班上在美国的任何人,能用一句简单的话跟我解释,什么是情绪化的行为吗?好,Sadhana Kaur,Siri Dharma Kaur,来吧,你笑了。
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YB: Anybody else, hurry up.
YB:还有谁,快点。
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YB: No, you Guru Singh what is your name?
YB:不,你,Guru Singh,你叫什么名字?
Student: Sat Guru Singh.
学生:Sat Guru Singh。
YB: Sat Guru yeah.
YB:Sat Guru,嗯。
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YB: I just want a simple statement, I don't want this...
YB:我只要一句简单的话,我不要这个……
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YB: No, no, no, no, no, no. Head Jatedar?
YB:不,不,不,不,不,不。头儿 Jatedar?
yeah.
嗯。
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YB: I just want a simple statement, I don't want this...
YB:我只要一句简单的话,我不要这个……
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YB: No, no, no, no, no, no. Head Jatedar?
YB:不,不,不,不,不,不。头儿 Jatedar?
Student: Sat Siri Singh.
学生:Sat Siri Singh。
YB: Where are you running away from the class?
YB:你从课堂上逃到哪里去?
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(Students' laughter...)
(学生们大笑……)
YB: Ah?
YB:啊?
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YB: She has a car trouble what?
YB:她的车出了毛病,什么?
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YB: Permissible.
YB:可以允许。
(Students' laughter...)
(学生们大笑……)
Jatedar, what is it?
Jatedar,是什么?
Student: You are not constant.
学生:你不稳定。
YB: You are not constant. We are talking about temperamental, temperamental. Dr Soram what is in the medical science temperamental?
YB:你不稳定。我们谈的是情绪化,情绪化。Soram 医生,在医学里情绪化是什么?
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YB: Changing with time instead of straight and steady. You got it but what is the base of it, you got the explanation. What is, what is temperamental behavior, right what is the source of temperamental behavior?
YB:随时间变化,而不是笔直稳定。你抓到了,但它的根基是什么,你有了解释。什么是,什么是情绪化的行为,对,情绪化行为的源头是什么?
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YB: Explain it better way.
YB:用更好的方式解释。
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YB: Yeah?
YB:嗯?
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YB: God, yeah?
YB:天哪,嗯?
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YB: What do you say girl?
YB:你说什么,姑娘?
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YB: No, no, no. What we will do with this country? It's a very important thing your mom didn't tell you?
YB:不,不,不。我们拿这个国家怎么办?这是件非常重要的事,你妈没告诉你吗?
(Students' laughter...)
(学生们大笑……)
Neither your dad?
你爸也没告诉你?
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YB: Yeah?
YB:嗯?
do with this country? It's a very important thing your mom didn't tell you?
拿这个国家怎么办?这是件非常重要的事,你妈没告诉你吗?
(Students' laughter...)
(学生们大笑……)
Neither your dad?
你爸也没告诉你?
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YB: Yeah?
YB:嗯?
Student: You move by time and space.
学生:你随时间和空间移动。
YB: No, no, you make it up, that doesn't work. Yeah?
YB:不,不,你自己编的,那不管用。是吧?
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YB: Temperamental behavior comes from the personality I know better. Try to for God sake understand what is a temperamental behavior. What is a temper? When you take a iron you temper it, you temper with oil, you temper it with carbon, you temper, temper means when you do something you make it harder. You understand? You temper the iron to make it steel, if you understand what I am going to tell, that's what I told you cool off and try to understand what I am talking to you today if you understand you understand a lot about God, lot about yourself, lot about happiness, lot about success.
YB:情绪化的行为来自「我比你更懂」的人格。拜托,试着去弄明白什么是情绪化的行为。什么是 temper?你拿一块铁来 temper,你用油来 temper 它,你用碳来 temper 它,你 temper,temper 的意思是,你做点什么,让它变得更硬。你明白吗?你把铁 temper 成钢。如果你能听懂我接下来要说的,那就是我跟你说过的,冷静下来,试着听懂我今天在跟你讲什么。如果你听懂了,你就会明白很多关于神的事,很多关于你自己的事,很多关于快乐的事,很多关于成功的事。
The word is temperamental behavior, be have arr, behavior is we are it, the sound is be have arr, temper means making hard, mental means mind capacity of the mind, when you make the capacity of the mind harder than it is, why you do it? Because you have to confront time and?
这个词是情绪化的行为(temperamental behavior),be have arr,行为就是我们所在的状态,声音是 be have arr,temper 的意思是让它变硬,mental 的意思是心智,心智的容量,当你把心智的容量弄得比它本来更硬,你为什么这么做?因为你必须面对时间和?
Students: Space.
学生们:空间。
of the mind, when you make the capacity of the mind harder than it is, why you do it? Because you have to confront time and?
心智的容量,当你把心智的容量弄得比它本来更硬,你为什么这么做?因为你必须面对时间和?
Students: Space.
学生们:空间。
YB: Space. That's why we come out with a temperamental behavior and once we temper our behavior then that's it. Temperamental behavior does not allow you to initiate your mind in many ways you can initiate your mind in higher consciousness and you can understand the nitty-gritty of it, you can understand the focal point of it, you can understand everything, but once you temper it that's the end of the road. To lose the right, to initiate your own mind, just understand because each gain has a loss. When you are temperamental it's your right, it's your privilege I am not saying you should not be temperamental, I think you should be, if you choose so.
YB:空间。这就是为什么我们会表现出情绪化的行为,而一旦我们把自己的行为 temper 了,那就完了。情绪化的行为不允许你去启动你的心智。你本来可以用很多方式启动你的心智,你可以把心智启动到更高的意识里,你可以理解它的细枝末节,你可以理解它的焦点,你可以理解一切,但一旦你把它 temper 了,那就是路的尽头。失去启动你自己心智的权利,你只要明白,因为每一份获得都带着一份失去。当你情绪化的时候,那是你的权利,那是你的特权,我不是说你不该情绪化,我觉得你该,如果你选择这样的话。
you are temperamental it's your right, it's your privilege I am not saying you should not be temperamental, I think you should be, if you choose so.
你情绪化,那是你的权利,那是你的特权,我不是说你不该情绪化,我觉得你该,如果你选择这样的话。
If you choose to be temperamental be so, but I am just trying to tell you what you are going to lose. Because each gain has a loss, each success has a failure, each taking has a giving, each giving has a taking. So when you give into temperamental behavior then you lose the right to initiate your mind. When you temper the steel you lose the right to bend it. Got it? To lose the right to initiate my all mind I'll prefer death. It is a serious loss. That means somebody can temper my mind and make me go like a puppy all the way to my death.
如果你选择情绪化,那就情绪化吧,但我只是想告诉你,你会失去什么。因为每一份获得都带着一份失去,每一次成功都带着一次失败,每一次拿取都带着一次给予,每一次给予都带着一次拿取。所以当你屈服于情绪化的行为,你就失去了启动自己心智的权利。当你把钢 temper 了,你就失去了把它弯折的权利。懂了吗?失去启动我整个心智的权利,我宁愿死。这是严重的损失。那意味着有人可以 temper 我的心智,让我像条小狗一样一路走到死。
I saw a wildlife movie of United States and they showed, told us that those buffalos used to be about sixty million or six million I don't remember the number, what is the number? How many buffalos used to be here?
我看过一部美国的野生动物电影,他们给我们展示、告诉我们,那些水牛过去大约有六千万头,还是六百万头,我记不清那个数字了,数字是多少?这里过去有多少水牛?
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YB: Six hundred million something? Six million or six hundred million they were they were lot, they showed us. And these Indians used to have them and they used to become buffalo and put out a smell and disturb them, disturb their temper, disturb their?
YB:六亿左右?六百万还是六亿,它们很多,他们给我们展示了。而这些印第安人过去会利用它们,他们会扮成水牛,放出一种气味,扰乱它们,扰乱它们的脾气,扰乱它们的?
us. And these Indians used to have them and they used to become buffalo and put out a smell and disturb them, disturb their temper, disturb their?
我们。而这些印第安人过去会利用它们,他们会扮成水牛,放出一种气味,扰乱它们,扰乱它们的脾气,扰乱它们的?
Student: Temper.
学生:脾气。
YB: And they will stampede after that guy and that guy will jump and sit right under and the stampede of buffalo will go over and a huge lot will get killed. But not that much as we killed later on with guns and rifles, that we almost finished them. And then they will take their hides and do whatever they want, take their meat to eat and whatever they want and all the tribes will get together and have what they want. But I looked at that, I said, "Look at the technique and let people see it, let people understand it that if somebody can temper you he gets the right over you to kill you, you have the right to live, you lose the right to live.
YB:然后它们就会朝着那个人狂奔,那个人会跳起来,正好坐在下面,水牛群的狂奔会从上面过去,一大批会被杀死。但没有后来我们用枪和步枪杀的多,我们几乎把它们杀光了。然后他们会取走它们的皮,想做什么就做什么,拿走它们的肉来吃,想做什么就做什么,所有部落会聚在一起,得到他们想要的东西。但我看着那个,我说:「看看这个技术,让人们看到它,让人们明白它:如果有人能激怒你,他就获得了凌驾于你之上、杀死你的权利,你有活下去的权利,你失去了活下去的权利。
people understand it that if somebody can temper you he gets the right over you to kill you, you have the right to live, you lose the right to live.
让人们明白它:如果有人能激怒你,他就获得了凌驾于你之上、杀死你的权利,你有活下去的权利,你失去了活下去的权利。
If somebody can temper you he can guide you, he can make you the way he wants, he can take you where he wants, he can exploit the way he wants, then you have lost the right to be yourself. You don't want to be not to be yourself, not at all. Don't you want to be yourself? Don't you, don't you? And I explain it to you right now, none of you is yourself at all, because temperamental behavior means you have been tempered by circumstances or the initiation of circumstances, therefore because you are not yourself that is why we know for fact and as a common fact that we are all temperamental.
如果有人能激怒你,他就能引导你,他就能把你塑造成他想要的样子,他就能把你带到他想要的地方,他就能按他想要的方式剥削你,那你就失去了做你自己的权利。你不想不做你自己,绝对不想。你不想做你自己吗?你不想吗,你不想吗?我现在就向你们解释,你们没有一个人是真正的自己,因为情绪化的行为意味着你已经被环境、或者环境的点化所激怒,因此,因为你不是你自己,所以我们才确知,而且这是一个普遍的事实:我们全都是情绪化的。
initiation of circumstances, therefore because you are not yourself that is why we know for fact and as a common fact that we are all temperamental.
环境的点化,因此,因为你不是你自己,所以我们才确知,而且这是一个普遍的事实:我们全都是情绪化的。
Because there is no way, because there is no way to stand before time and space and not be temperamental, but I want to initiate myself, I want to initiate my mind, I want to control myself, I want to control my mind, I want to control my environments, I want to say what I want to say, I want to impress people I want to love people I want to be success, I want to make money, I want to be holy, I want this, I want that, I want so many things but I don't want my life to be dependant on my mind to be rigid and I have to be guided like a blind folded dog, I don't want that. Now what is the way out, tell me please? Yes?
因为没有办法,因为根本没有办法站在时间和空间面前而不变得情绪化,但我想点化我自己,我想点化我的心智,我想控制我自己,我想控制我的心智,我想控制我的环境,我想说我想说的话,我想打动别人,我想爱别人,我想成功,我想赚钱,我想变得神圣,我想要这个,我想要那个,我想要那么多东西,但我不想要我的生命依赖我的心智,变得僵硬,像一只被蒙住眼的狗一样被牵着走,我不想要那样。那出路是什么,请告诉我?好吗?
Student: Neutral mind.
学生:中性心智。
YB: How, neutral mind is all right, mind is already temperamental what is the way out. Neutral mind it won't let you reach come on.
YB:怎么做,中性心智是对的,心智本来就已经情绪化了,出路是什么。中性心智不会让你到达,别闹了。
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YB: Intuition will tell you mind is tempered then you will stand up with your own conflict. Yes?
YB:直觉会告诉你心智被搅动了,然后你就会带着自己的冲突站起来。好吗?
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YB: Yeah, japa is one way, but how long you have to do japa?
YB:对,持诵是一条路,但你要持诵多久?
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you will stand up with your own conflict. Yes?
你就会带着自己的冲突站起来。好吗?
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YB: Yeah, japa is one way, but how long you have to do japa?
YB:对,持诵是一条路,但你要持诵多久?
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YB: Nobody does that, you got to quit, when the latter will come you will be out. Japa is the way. Japa is the way, right, right? Japa is the way, but we can't afford that much time it may take sometime hundred years of japa.
YB:没人做得到,你得放弃,等后来的时候你就会出局。持诵是路。持诵是路,对吧,对吧?持诵是路,但我们负担不起那么多时间,它可能要花上百年持诵。
(Students' laughter...)
(学生们笑……)
Who has hundred years? Yeah, yeah? The Veda said the holy man said, the Moses said, the Ibrahim said, the Jesus said, everybody said that, Rama said, Krishna said, even Guru said, but they said something more you remember that? Japa is right, I agree but it takes time and we are grihasties, we are householders, we are people of the world also, we can't live in forest lonely and eat barks and do japa all the time. Even people take somras, somras is a kind of a drink which totally space you out for about three months once you drink it.
谁有上百年?对吧,对吧?《吠陀》说过,圣人说过,摩西说过,易卜拉欣说过,耶稣说过,每个人都说过,罗摩说过,克里希那说过,连古茹也说过,但他们还说了些别的,你记得吗?持诵是对的,我同意,但它要花时间,而我们是居家者,我们是有家室的人,我们也是世间的人,我们不能独自住在森林里,吃树皮,整天持诵。甚至有人服用somras,somras是一种饮料,你一喝下去,它就会让你完全出神大约三个月。
(Students' laughter...)
(学生们笑……)
So, they even drank that and they wanted to that japa, they don't want to come out of it, I know japa reach to the extent forget it, I am just saying is there any easy way?
所以,他们连那个都喝了,他们想要那个持诵,他们不想从中出来,我知道持诵达到某种程度就忘了,我只是说,有没有什么容易的路?
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YB: Yeah.
YB:对。
Student: Seva?
学生:服务?
to come out of it, I know japa reach to the extent forget it, I am just saying is there any easy way?
从中出来,我知道持诵达到某种程度就忘了,我只是说,有没有什么容易的路?
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YB: Yeah.
YB:对。
Student: Seva?
学生:服务?
YB: Seva you can do for centuries.
YB:服务你可以做上几个世纪。
(Students' laughter...)
(学生们笑……)
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YB: Then there is no need to discuss anything.
YB:那就没必要讨论任何东西了。
(Students' laughter...)
(学生们笑……)
I am not, if you (?) Guru matter ends that's over, God bless you, bye bye bye somebody said, "Yogiji, I want to thank you for all the knowledge you gave me. "
我不在,如果你(?)Guru 的事情结束了,那就完了,神保佑你,拜拜拜,有人说:「Yogiji,我想感谢你给我的所有知识。」
I said, "Well, God bless you. "
我说:「好吧,神保佑你。」
He said, "These days you will be glad to know I have accepted Jesus as my master. "
他说:「这些天你会很高兴知道,我已经接受了耶稣作为我的古茹。」
I said, "I am so pleased son that you have accepted Jesus as you master, it's really wonderful. And who you are serving these days? "
我说:「我很高兴,孩子,你接受了耶稣作为你的古茹,这真是太好了。那么这些天你在服务谁呢?」
He said, "I am working for such and such company. "
他说:「我在某某公司工作。」
I said, "That's ridiculous, that's no good. Once you accept Jesus as master you can't serve anybody else, period. Resign tomorrow. "
我说:「这太荒唐了,这不行。一旦你接受耶稣作为古茹,你就不能服务任何其他人,就这样。明天辞职。」
(Students' laughter...)
(学生们大笑……)
Once you give your head to the Guru, forget everything else then it's perfect, I agree with you. But I want to find it a easy way when we cannot give head to the Guru and we can't keep our head on our shoulders what is the way?
一旦你把头交给古茹,就忘掉其他一切,那就完美了,我同意你。但我想找到一条容易的路,当我们不能把头交给古茹,又不能把头留在肩膀上时,路在哪里?
(Students' laughter...)
(学生们大笑……)
want to find it a easy way when we cannot give head to the Guru and we can't keep our head on our shoulders what is the way?
想找到一条容易的路,当我们不能把头交给古茹,又不能把头留在肩膀上时,路在哪里?
(Students' laughter...)
(学生们大笑……)
Somewhere when we are in that limbo, come on quick I have been teaching you twelve years.
当我们处在那种悬而未决的状态时,来吧,快点,我已经教了你们十二年。
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(Students' laughter...)
(学生们大笑……)
YB: I want the answer I have the right now to get the answer what you people are, what you are going to tell people we have been following this idiot and we don't know a thing, you guys are going to go out and prove that I never knew a thing? Come on quick I want the reply, I want that line which I repeated it yesterday, it is in the tape.
YB:我想要答案,我现在有权得到答案,你们这些人是什么,你们要告诉人们什么,我们一直跟着这个白痴,我们什么都不知道,你们这些人要出去证明我从来什么都不知道吗?来吧,快点,我想要回答,我想要我昨天重复的那句话,它在录音带里。
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YB: I didn't say that.
YB:我没那么说。
(Students' laughter...)
(学生们大笑……)
I don't want to take responsibility for wrong statements.
我不想为错误的陈述承担责任。
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YB: You should speak Gurubani,
YB:你应该说 Gurubani,
"Guruki math lehaney, bhagat bina bao dubey siyane"
「Guruki math lehaney, bhagat bina bao dubey siyane」
to take responsibility for wrong statements.
为错误的陈述承担责任。
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YB: You should speak Gurubani,
YB:你应该说 Gurubani,
"Guruki math lehaney, bhagat bina bao dubey siyane"
「Guruki math lehaney, bhagat bina bao dubey siyane」
All wisdom, all wise people get drowned without devotion, I explained devotion, it is dee ocean means, no move, it means mind should be in control. I have the right to initiate my mind by my higher self and my higher self belongs to me but it has to be fulfilled. It can be only fulfilled if I take the word, take the word, T A K E, take, take in Punjabi means I take the support, take means both ways. I take the take, I take the support of Guruki Math and in fourteen hundred and thirty pages Guru explained every walk of life.
所有智慧,所有有智慧的人,没有奉爱都会沉没,我解释过奉爱,它是深海洋的意思,不动,意思是心智应该在控制之中。我有权由我的更高自我来点化我的心智,我的更高自我属于我,但它必须被满足。只有当我接受那句话,接受那句话,T A K E,接受,接受,在旁遮普语里意思是我接受支持,接受有两层意思。我接受那个接受,我接受 Guruki Math 的支持,在一千四百三十页里,古茹解释了人生的每一种道路。
Initiation is I shall abide myself by the knowledge the guidance of the Guru, not my personal, not my parental, not my maternal, not my future, not my past, I will initiate my mind, my, my, my so that the ego is satisfied too. And I'll take, I'll take the Guru's word in the beginning there was a word, word was with God and word was God.
点化就是:我要让自己安住在古茹的知识与指引之下,而不是我的个人、不是我的父母、不是我的母系、不是我的未来、不是我的过去,我要点化我的心智,我的、我的、我的,好让小我也得到满足。而我会接受,我会接受古茹的话——太初有道,道与神同在,道就是神。
my so that the ego is satisfied too. And I'll take, I'll take the Guru's word in the beginning there was a word, word was with God and word was God.
我的、我的、我的,好让小我也得到满足。而我会接受,我会接受古茹的话——太初有道,道与神同在,道就是神。
So my folks, so my folks if you are a Jew live by Torah, if you are a Christian live by Bible, if you are a Muslim live by Quran, but if you want ever to be a human being live by the word. And that is why, that is why in Siri Guru Granth there is the word of all people from any religion who could reach that level of, level of?
所以我的朋友们,所以我的朋友们,如果你是犹太人,就依《托拉》而活;如果你是基督徒,就依《圣经》而活;如果你是穆斯林,就依《古兰经》而活;但如果你想要成为一个真正的人,就依道而活。这就是为什么,这就是为什么在《圣格兰特经》里,有来自任何宗教、任何能到达那个层次的人的话,那个层次是?
Students: Consciousness.
学生:意识。
YB: Consciousness. Take the word of those who have reached the consciousness and when you take the word of those who reach the consciousness and you guide and you initiate your mind with those word then you will reach the same stage in no time. So there is no struggle or no trouble with the time and space. Because my mind is the only valuable thing God gave me, it can take me to God in no time and it can take me away from God in?
YB:意识。接受那些已经到达意识的人的话,当你接受那些到达意识的人的话,并用那些话指引并点化你的心智,那么你立刻就会到达同样的阶段。所以跟时间和空间没有挣扎,也没有麻烦。因为我的心智是神给我的唯一宝贵的东西,它能在瞬间把我带到神那里,也能在瞬间把我带离神,带到?
Student: (-------)
学生:(-------)
YB: How many of you think you love me, raise your hands?
YB:你们有多少人认为自己爱我,举手?
Now don't, don't do a show piece just, if you don't even love me it's all right. How many of you understand what love means?
现在别,别做表面文章,就算你根本不爱我也没关系。你们有多少人明白爱是什么意思?
(Students' laughter...)
(学生们笑……)
Now don't, don't do a show piece just, if you don't even love me it's all right. How many of you understand what love means?
现在别,别做表面文章,就算你根本不爱我也没关系。你们有多少人明白爱是什么意思?
(Students' laughter...)
(学生们笑……)
Now raise your hands. Love is experience of oneself within oneself, right, you understand the definition of love. How many of you are willing to pay the price of that love? What is the price of love?
现在举手。爱是在自己之内对自己的体验,对吧,你们明白爱的定义。你们有多少人愿意为那份爱付出代价?爱的代价是什么?
Student: (-------)
学生:(-------)
YB: No, what I desire, give me that. I said ten times better than me. I fix it up, I didn't ask you to give me your head or your bush shirt or your pajamas or anything, I didn't ask you give me your trust, fund of money, I didn't say a thing. I have never demanded from you a thing, I said, "If you love me be ten times better than me. " I fixed a price. You can take all twelve years and you can read anything and you will find this repeated every time if you love me be ten times better than me. That is honest. I don't want you to be like me, not at all. That will be a failure. Siri Dharma Kaur said, "You are fifty year old let us run around little bit why you are so hard on me? "
YB:不,我渴望什么,就给我什么。我说过要比我好上十倍。我把话定死了,我没要你把你的头给我,也没要你的丛林衬衫、睡衣或任何东西,我没要你把信任、资金交给我,我什么都没说。我从来没向你们要求过任何东西,我说过:「如果你爱我,就比我好上十倍。」我定了一个价。你可以把整整十二年都拿出来,读任何东西,你会发现每一次都重复这一句:如果你爱我,就比我好上十倍。这是诚实的。我不要你像我,一点都不要。那会是失败。Siri Dharma Kaur 说:「你都五十岁了,让我们到处跑跑吧,你为什么对我这么狠?」
like me, not at all. That will be a failure. Siri Dharma Kaur said, "You are fifty year old let us run around little bit why you are so hard on me? "
像我,一点都不要。那会是失败。Siri Dharma Kaur 说:「你都五十岁了,让我们到处跑跑吧,你为什么对我这么狠?」
I said, "Look I love you, you love me, we are all stuck, I want to see within my lifetime you are ten times better than me," that's a desire, it's a good desire. I have the right to that desire. I want you to win, I want you to succeed, I want you to be happy, I am happy. I am very happy, I want you to know and I am very miserable.
我说:「你看,我爱你,你爱我,我们全卡在这儿了,我想在我有生之年看到你比我好上十倍。」那是一个渴望,是个好的渴望。我有权拥有那个渴望。我要你赢,我要你成功,我要你快乐,我快乐。我非常快乐,我要你知道,同时我非常痛苦。
(Students' laughter...)
(学生们大笑……)
Too much miserable because you are not happy. I can't take it, I feel I am pretty all bogged down selfish, service and beauty, whatever you want to call it.
太痛苦了,因为你不快乐。我受不了,我觉得自己整个陷进去了,自私、服务、美,随你怎么叫它。
(Students' laughter...)
(学生们大笑……)
are not happy. I can't take it, I feel I am pretty all bogged down selfish, service and beauty, whatever you want to call it.
不快乐。我受不了,我觉得自己整个陷进去了,自私、服务、美,随你怎么叫它。
(Students' laughter...)
(学生们大笑……)
Because, because I am happy and God you are lovey and you are not happy, that's not fair. Right? Right or wrong? That's not fair, that's not, this is unfair game which is bugging me down, and you say you love me and I say sure I accept it pay the price. I don't want you to be mine, I don't want you as my slave, I don't want to do this, I don't want to, I don't need anything, I say just do one thing, be ten times better than me. If you become ten times better than me who will love you will become ten times better than you and whosoever aware of that will become ten, ten times okay, we'll make it hundred times. There is no reason we can't do it.
因为,因为我快乐,而神啊,你是可爱的,你却不快乐,这不公平。对吧?对还是错?这不公平,这不是,这是一场不公平的游戏,它把我拖垮了,你说你爱我,我说好,我接受,付这个价。我不要你属于我,我不要你做我的奴隶,我不要这样,我不要,我什么都不需要,我说只做一件事:比我好上十倍。如果你变得比我好上十倍,爱你的人就会比你还好上十倍,谁觉知到这一点,就会变成十倍、十倍,好,我们就让它变成一百倍。我们没有理由做不到。
ten times better than you and whosoever aware of that will become ten, ten times okay, we'll make it hundred times. There is no reason we can't do it.
比你还好上十倍,谁觉知到这一点,就会变成十倍、十倍,好,我们就让它变成一百倍。我们没有理由做不到。
Because happiness is my individual birthright, I am born in the image of God, nobody can tell me what to do and nobody has the right to initiate my mind, I have the right to initiate my mind, you remember twelve years ago there was a situation, somebody wanted to give eighteen million dollars and plus land, plus house, plus car, plus all that and there was no obligation on the surface or behind the surface except I had to put my hand on her and say, "In the name of God Almighty I initiate you. " I won't say it and she won't give a dime. Rather she became so mad that she said, "I'll take all that money to slander you and get you out of United States faster than you think. "
因为快乐是我个人的天赋权利,我是按神的形象出生的,没有人能告诉我该做什么,也没有人有资格点化我的心智,我有权点化我自己的心智。你记得十二年前有个情况,有人想给一千八百万美元,外加土地、房子、车子,还有所有那些,表面上或背地里都没有任何附加条件,只要我把手放在她身上说:「以全能神之名,我点化你。」我不说,她就一分钱都不给。结果她气得发疯,说:「我要拿那些钱去诽谤你,让你比你想象的更快离开美国。」
And I said, "Lady, I have not come to United States to have bucks here. Someone who brought me will take me away, neither you brought me. "
我说:「女士,我来美国不是为了在这里捞钱。谁把我带来的,谁就会把我带走,又不是你把我带来的。」
She said, "Why not? "
她说:「为什么不是?」
I said, "Do you know, did you write me a letter? "
我说:「你知道吗,你给我写过信吗?」
"No. "
「没有。」
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"No. "
「没有。」
I said, "So, that ends the matter, don't be upset, don't be temperamental, no problem. "
我说:「那这事就到此为止,别不高兴,别闹情绪,没问题。」
know, did you write me a letter? "
你知道吗,你给我写过信吗?
"No. "
「没有。」
Side-B
Side-B
"No. "
「没有。」
I said, "So, that ends the matter, don't be upset, don't be temperamental, no problem. "
我说:「那这事就到此为止,别不高兴,别闹情绪,没问题。」
A week later she came and sat down. She said, "Why you won't accept my money? I want to give you out of love. "
一周后她来了,坐下来。她说:「你为什么不接受我的钱?我是出于爱想给你的。」
I said, "Look, you have to understand something, if I am a man and you tell me to get pregnant, tell me how I'll get pregnant? Explain it to me, you don't understand big language. I'll explain to you in human language. I am a male right? I mean to say I do not know what is happening in America these days, tomorrow they may, they may put a tube in me and may make me pregnant. "
我说:「你看,你得明白一件事,如果我是个男人,你叫我去怀孕,你告诉我我怎么怀孕?给我解释解释,你不懂大道理。我用人的话跟你讲。我是男的,对吧?我是说,我不知道美国这些天在搞什么,明天他们可能,可能给我插根管子让我怀孕。」
(Students' laughter...)
(学生们大笑……)
"I don't know yet. " Well, they are messing up with every organ anyway, they have a pump system and they have this system, you read all those papers I read it too. But, I said, "Lady, can you believe at this moment that I can be pregnant? "
「我还不知道呢。」反正他们在折腾每一个器官,他们有泵系统,有这套那套,你读那些报纸,我也读了。但是,我说:「女士,此时此刻你能相信我能怀孕吗?」
She said, "No. "
她说:「不能。」
I said, "Why not? "
我说:「为什么不能?」
She said, "But you are not capable of being pregnant. "
她说:「因为你没有能力怀孕。」
you believe at this moment that I can be pregnant? "
此时此刻你能相信我能怀孕吗?
She said, "No. "
她说:「不能。」
I said, "Why not? "
我说:「为什么不能?」
She said, "But you are not capable of being pregnant. "
她说:「因为你没有能力怀孕。」
I said, "I am not capable of initiating anybody. I am not, if I am not capable of initiating anybody why should I claim it? Why should I initiate you? I can't initiate you because I am not capable, period. It's not in my genes, it's not in my process, I don't want to come from India to America and cheat Americans. I am not here for that purpose, period. I don't need your money and I don't need your land and I don't your house and I don't need you. "
我说:「我没有能力点化任何人。我没有,如果我没有能力点化任何人,我凭什么声称我能?我凭什么点化你?我无法点化你,因为我没有这个能力,就这样。它不在我的基因里,不在我的过程里,我不想从印度跑到美国来骗美国人。我不是为这个目的来的,就这样。我不需要你的钱,不需要你的地,不需要你的房子,也不需要你。」
She said, "What you want? "
她说:「你想要什么?」
I said, "I want somebody who can initiate himself. "
我说:「我想要一个能点化他自己的人。」
"How? "
「怎么点化?」
I said, "I'll tell you. "
我说:「我会告诉你。」
She said, "I don't want to learn. "
她说:「我不想学。」
I said, "That's it. "
我说:「那就这样。」
(Students' laughter...)
(学生们笑……)
"You don't want to learn, I am willing to tell you, you don't want to learn, don't learn, please don't yell at me. Because if I initiate you then you won't initiate yourself, got it? And so long God gave you identity and you don't initiate yourself then it is not possible that you can progress. "
「你不想学,我愿意告诉你,你不想学,那就别学,请别对我嚷嚷。因为如果我点化你,你就不会点化你自己,明白吗?只要神给了你身份,而你不点化你自己,你就不可能进步。」
won't initiate yourself, got it? And so long God gave you identity and you don't initiate yourself then it is not possible that you can progress. "
你就不会点化你自己,明白吗?只要神给了你身份,而你不点化你自己,你就不可能进步。」
That is the secret Guru has given me and that is the secret I give you today all that ego is the biggest disease but there is a solution in the ego and the ego solution is initiate, initiate with your own ego, your own self and don't accept any other initiation. That's why when we give amrit we don't write a letter, so and so because you have been in this Dharma for thirty-four years now we feel you are good for initiation, please come bring seven hundred and fifty dollars the fee, plus three hundred as special fund, two hundred twenty-five for this, and seven hundred dollars for your residency permit here, we don't do that. Have you seen us doing it? We don't believe in this.
这就是古茹给我的秘密,也是我今天给你们的秘密——所有的小我就是最大的疾病,但小我里有一个解决办法,小我的解决办法就是点化,用你自己的小我、你自己来点化,不接受任何别的点化。这就是为什么我们给甘露时不写一封信,说某某人,因为你在正法里已经三十四年了,我们觉得你可以接受点化了,请来交七百五十美元的费用,外加三百美元特别基金,二百二十五美元交这个,七百美元交你这里的居留许可,我们不干这种事。你们见过我们这么干吗?我们不信这一套。
We want to sell God to you and we want to tell you what God is but we want to pay it for and God is a consciousness that you can only buy God with consciousness and not with dollars and not with money.
我们想把神卖给你,我们想告诉你神是什么,但我们想为此付出代价,而神是一种意识,你只能用意识买神,不能用美元,不能用钱。
what God is but we want to pay it for and God is a consciousness that you can only buy God with consciousness and not with dollars and not with money.
神是什么,但我们想为此付出代价,而神是一种意识,你只能用意识买神,不能用美元,不能用钱。
We give money, we give one-tenth because we feel one-tenth of us belongs to God and Guru and we give it. We don't give it to get a receipt, because we feel one-tenth of time, one-tenth of us, one-tenth of our money, what is a money? Stored services rendered are capable to be rendered. Money is stored, service is rendered or capable to be rendered and that is all money is, money is what money does. So for good purposes, for community purposes, for the poor, for the rich, to be alive, to defend ourselves, to protect ourselves, to expand ourselves, we give one-tenth. Why? Because we know Guru said it. And we know Guru is wise.
我们捐钱,我们捐出十分之一,是因为我们觉得我们十分之一属于神和Guru,所以我们给出去。我们给钱不是为了拿收据,因为我们觉得十分之一的时间、十分之一的我们、十分之一的钱——钱是什么?钱是储存起来的服务,是已经提供或能够提供的服务。钱是储存的,服务是提供的或能够提供的,钱就是这么回事,钱就是钱所做的事。所以为了好的目的,为了社区,为了穷人,为了富人,为了活下去,为了自卫,为了保护自己,为了扩展自己,我们捐出十分之一。为什么?因为我们知道Guru这么说过。而且我们知道Guru是智慧的。
And we have seen through all the time the word of Guru are infinite truth.
而且我们一直看到,Guru的话是无限的真理。
one-tenth. Why? Because we know Guru said it. And we know Guru is wise.
十分之一。为什么?因为我们知道Guru这么说过。而且我们知道Guru是智慧的。
And we have seen through all the time the word of Guru are infinite truth.
而且我们一直看到,Guru的话是无限的真理。
Therefore we initiate and then Guru further said if you give the initial money, Guru said that, if you give the seed money in the name of God, God will give you many fold and also Guru said, whom he shall bless, shall give and I believe God has blessed you all therefore you should give. Even I reminded you I read letter to you, I tell you. It doesn't come to me, there is no purpose of mine in it, it's all your purpose, it's all you. But I feel and honestly feel in the heart that you should stand in the line of those who are blessed, because when I was a little child I was told the story, little story, very little story for a little time when I was a little child.
所以我们点化,然后Guru进一步说,如果你以神的名义给出最初的钱,Guru这么说过,如果你以神的名义给出种子钱,神会成倍地给你,Guru还说,他祝福谁,谁就会给,我相信神已经祝福了你们所有人,所以你们应该给。甚至我提醒过你们,我给你们读过信,我告诉你们。它不会到我这里来,我在其中没有任何目的,那全是你们的目的,全是你们。但我感觉,而且是在心里诚实地感觉,你们应该站在那些被祝福的人的行列里,因为当我还是个小孩子的时候,有人给我讲了个故事,一个小故事,在我还是小孩子的那一小段时间里听到的一个很小的故事。
That one day a saintly man got up from sleep and he saw that angel is writing a list, that's a huge long list.
有一天,一位圣人从睡梦中醒来,他看到天使在写一份名单,那是一份很长很长的名单。
He asked, "Oh angel of light, Oh special of God, what are you writing in my little hut? "
他问:「哦,光的天使,哦,神特别的使者,你在我的小茅屋里写什么?」
He said, "I am writing the name of those who love God. "
他说:「我在写那些爱神的人的名字。」
He said, "You must have chosen my place because I love God too. Is my name there? "
他说:「你一定选了我的地方,因为我也爱神。我的名字在那里吗?」
He said, "Forget it. "
他说:「算了吧。」
writing the name of those who love God. "
写那些爱神的人的名字。」
He said, "You must have chosen my place because I love God too. Is my name there? "
他说:「你一定选了我的地方,因为我也爱神。我的名字在那里吗?」
He said, "Forget it. "
他说:「算了吧。」
(Students' laughter...)
(学生们笑了……)
"Your name is not there. "
「你的名字不在那里。」
He said, "What are you doing here? "
他说:「你在这里做什么?」
He said, "I told you I am writing the list of those who love God. "
他说:「我告诉过你,我在写那些爱神的人的名单。」
He said, "But why you came to my house, I don't understand. "
他说:「但你为什么来我家,我不明白。」
He said, "None of your problem, I thought it is cozy and I am here don't bug me let me write, I have to complete my work before the sun rises I have to finish it, don't bother me. Hey, I'll be here tomorrow again don't bother me. "
他说:「不关你的事,我觉得这里挺舒服,我就在这里,别烦我,让我写,我必须在太阳升起前完成我的工作,我必须写完,别打扰我。嘿,我明天还会来这里,别烦我。」
"So okay, you are an angel who can fight with an angel, keep on writing. "
“好吧,你是一个能跟天使打架的天使,继续写吧。”
He got so mad and that day he didn't get up for Sadhana, he slept.
他气坏了,那天他没有起来做萨达那,他睡了。
And angel said, "Hey you are not to do Sadhana? "
天使说:“嘿,你不用做萨达那吗?”
He said, "No, no, you are writing a list, I don't want to disturb you. "
他说:“不,不,你在写名单,我不想打扰你。”
(Students' laughter...)
(学生们大笑……)
And angel said, "Hey you are not to do Sadhana? "
天使说:“嘿,你不用做萨达那吗?”
He said, "No, no, you are writing a list, I don't want to disturb you. "
他说:“不,不,你在写名单,我不想打扰你。”
(Students' laughter...)
(学生们大笑……)
As you say to your wife sometime, I don't want to wake you up because you are snoring, poor thing is snoring wake her up so that she can do sadhana at least she will chant and do Japa, you prefer snoring over Japa. But it is all right that is your way of thinking, I have nothing to do with it. But once a while like that angel I sneak into the bedrooms I see some wonderful scenes, it's okay it is not my problem, I am supposed to see them. I don't; keep a note of them, don't misunderstand, I forget them afterwards.
就像你有时对你妻子说的,我不想叫醒你,因为你在打呼噜,可怜的人在打呼噜,叫醒她,好让她至少能做萨达那,她会唱诵、做Japa,你却宁愿听呼噜也不愿做Japa。不过没关系,那是你的想法,跟我无关。但偶尔,像那个天使一样,我会溜进卧室,看到一些奇妙的场景,没关系,那不是我的问题,我本来就该看到它们。我不会把它们记下来,别误会,事后我就忘了。
(Students' laughter...)
(学生们大笑……)
But they are wonderful thing wonderful things, wonderful things. He slept next day he woke up, angel was again there and this time he had a list, he has a folded list and he was kind of meditating, he was not writing anything.
但它们是奇妙的东西,奇妙的东西,奇妙的东西。他睡了,第二天他醒来,天使又在那儿,这一次他手里有一份名单,一份折起来的名单,他像是在冥想,什么也没写。
He got up, he said, "Hey, what are you doing today? "
他起来,说:“嘿,你今天在干什么?”
He said, "I am writing a list again. "
他说:“我又在写一份名单。”
He said, "What is the list of these today? "
他说:“今天这份名单是什么?”
He said, "This is a list whom God love. "
他说:“这是一份神所爱的人的名单。”
He said "All right. "
他说:“好吧。”
He said, "Why it is all right? "
他说:“为什么好吧?”
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He said, "What is the list of these today? "
他说:“今天这份名单是什么?”
He said, "This is a list whom God love. "
他说:“这是一份神所爱的人的名单。”
He said "All right. "
他说:“好吧。”
He said, "Why it is all right? "
他说:“为什么好吧?”
He said, "Why should I ask you, I told you yesterday I love God and you said my name is there, now where can be my name in the name of those whom God loved. Forget it. "
他说:“我为什么要问你,我昨天告诉过你我爱神,你说我的名字在上面,现在我的名字怎么可能在那些神所爱的人的名字里。算了吧。”
He said, "Unfortunately yours' is the only name and that's why there is no work and you can see it. "
他说:“不幸的是,你的名字是唯一的名字,所以没有活儿干,你自己看吧。”
And Guru said that Ram Das Kaur,
古茹说,Ram Das Kaur,
"Jis nu bakhsay sifat saalaah. Naanak paatisaahee paatisaahu. "
“Jis nu bakhsay sifat saalaah. Naanak paatisaahee paatisaahu.”
You don't believe it, ah? Believe it or not? No, you don't, this is my fight with you Ram Das Kaur, I fight with you everyday on every corner on every bend, I say your name is Ram Das Kaur, princess who serve Ram Das, Ram Das sarovar naathey?
你不信,啊?信不信?不,你不信,这就是我跟你的较量,Ram Das Kaur,我每天跟你较量,在每个角落、每个转弯处,我说你的名字是Ram Das Kaur,服侍Ram Das的公主,Ram Das sarovar naathey?
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This is what I say? Did I say wrong? You know I am just writing the list, list, in the list read my name, Akasha Kaur what are you doing on the earth?
这就是我说的?我说错了吗?你知道我只是在写名单,名单,在名单里读我的名字,Akasha Kaur,你在地球上干什么?
(Students' laughter...)
(学生们大笑……)
Name is Akasha Kaur, the princess of the ether. I told her don't put up weight it is too earthy.
名字是Akasha Kaur,以太的公主。我告诉过她别增重,太土了。
Poor thing hassled a lot but you know she lost lot of weight.
可怜的家伙受了不少折腾,但你知道她瘦了很多。
Somebody said, "What do you mean by Dr. Soram? "
有人问:“Dr. Soram 是什么意思?”
I said, "Sou Ram, hundred Ram not one. "
我说:“Sou Ram,一百个 Ram,不是一个。”
thing hassled a lot but you know she lost lot of weight.
家伙受了不少折腾,但你知道她瘦了很多。
Somebody said, "What do you mean by Dr. Soram? "
有人问:“Dr. Soram 是什么意思?”
I said, "Sou Ram, hundred Ram not one. "
我说:“Sou Ram,一百个 Ram,不是一个。”
I said, "Simple vowels spoken, just Sou Ram and quickly and you say Soram, Sou Ram, hundred Ram, one Ram nahi hundred Ram if you call Dr, Soram you have already called the hundred Ram, let him leave up to it that's the destiny. " There is no way out. We have the right to be, let us be and so be it. Mental initiation is our privilege, mental initiation is our privilege and mental guidance is our right.
我说:“简单的元音念出来,就是 Sou Ram,念得快一点,你就说成 Soram,Sou Ram,一百个 Ram,一个 Ram 不是,一百个 Ram,如果你叫 Dr. Soram,你就已经叫了一百个 Ram,让他自己去处理吧,那就是天命。”没有别的出路。我们有权存在,就让我们存在,就这样吧。心智点化是我们的特权,心智点化是我们的特权,而心智指引是我们的权利。
We'll discuss that next, therefore, may the...
我们下次再讨论这个,因此,愿……
The class sings: "May the long time sunshine upon you... "
课堂唱道:“愿那长久的阳光照耀你……”
Beloved God, Creator of the universe, master of all creation, through thy will, through thy mercy we exist, silence these drums of war, bring peace to humanity, save the tragedies, give us the wisdom and exalt our wisdom to the point of ecstasy of consciousness so we can live in thy name, beloved God give us health, happiness and prosperity so that we can worship you, give us the beautiful tomorrow, protect our today and let us learn from yesterday through thy grace. Sat Nam.
亲爱的神,宇宙的创造者,一切造物的主人,借着你的意志,借着你的慈悲,我们才得以存在,让这些战鼓安静下来,给人类带来和平,免除那些悲剧,赐给我们智慧,并把我们的智慧提升到意识狂喜的境地,好让我们能活在你的圣名里,亲爱的神,赐给我们健康、快乐和丰盛,好让我们能敬拜你,赐给我们美好的明天,保护我们的今天,并让我们借着你的优雅从昨天学习。Sat Nam。
Student: Sat Nam.
学生:Sat Nam。
Sing it.
唱出来。
you, give us the beautiful tomorrow, protect our today and let us learn from yesterday through thy grace. Sat Nam.
你,赐给我们美好的明天,保护我们的今天,并让我们借着你的优雅从昨天学习。Sat Nam。
Student: Sat Nam.
学生:Sat Nam。
Sing it.
唱出来。
(The class sings: Birthday song.)
(课堂唱:生日歌。)
Everybody!
大家一起!
And many more and all the cake and cookies, Sat Nam.
还有更多更多,还有所有的蛋糕和饼干,Sat Nam。

