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Student: Combining the first chakra with the first body, so on, second, third, forth. Is that a good idea to combine them like that? And talk about them together? Cause it says the first 7 bodies are the first 7 chakras, right?
学生：把第一个脉轮和第一个身体结合起来，依此类推，第二个、第三个、第四个。这样把它们结合起来，是个好主意吗？把它们放在一起讲？因为书上说前 7 个身体就是前 7 个脉轮，对吧？
YB: The chakras are in the physical body. They get influenced by the other subtle bodies, other bodies. Like spirit, soul, soul relates to being in the whole physical body, in the impulse of the body, but its main relationship is with the impulse of the heart. You understand what I mean? Impulse of the heart, the impulse of the body, total body impulse is that the heart. And that's the first spirit, spiritual body, which you have. Second body is a mental negative. Mental negative is earth. Accurate? And that is related to the balance negative, positive and neutral. That is what the third chakra will represent. Like then you have basically compassion, projection, kindness, comparison, working, that is again the fourth heart center. Whereas first heart is the main but impulse, which is throughout the body, pulse, that is the spirit. Understand?
Yogi Bhajan：脉轮在肉体里。它们会受到其他精微体、其他身体的影响。比如 spirit、soul，灵魂跟整个肉体的存在有关，跟身体的冲动有关，但它主要的关系是和心的冲动。你明白我的意思吗？心的冲动，身体的冲动，整个身体的冲动就是那颗心。那就是你拥有的第一个 spirit，灵性体。第二个身体是负面的心智。负面心智是土。对吗？那和负面、正面、中性的平衡有关。那就是第三个脉轮所代表的。然后你基本上就有慈悲、投射、善良、比较、运作，那又是第四个心轮。而第一个心是主要的冲动，遍布全身的，脉搏，那就是 spirit。明白吗？
Now you come to the physical body. Physical body is still Prana; it lives by Tattva, five elements. It is into three Bandas. Elimination, processing, and receiving. You understand? So first is Moolbandh, Udhyanbandh and Jalandharbandh. But total of it is Mahaabandh. Mahaabandh means total lock and that is physical body. That's how you have to relate to it. Then you come to the auric line, auric line, auric body, aura. That's a reflection of the skin, Prana and the skin reflects. You understand that? That's again you are relating to man's projection, man's projection can be in two places. Either in the first chakra or in the sixth. It is variable. Then you come to, what is the next? Which body is that?
现在你来到肉体。肉体仍然是 Prana；它靠 Tattva，五大元素活着。它分三个 Bandas。排泄、处理、接收。你明白吗？所以第一个是 Moolbandh，Udhyanbandh 和 Jalandharbandh。但总体是 Mahaabandh。Mahaabandh 意思是总锁，那就是肉体。你就得这样去理解它。然后你来到光环，光环，光环体，aura。那是皮肤的反射，Prana 和皮肤在反射。你明白吗？那又是你在讲人的投射，人的投射可以在两个地方。要么在第一个脉轮，要么在第六个。它是可变的。然后你来到，下一个是什么？那是哪个身体？
Student: Seventh chakra is..
学生：第七个脉轮是……
YB: No, no, seven body.
Yogi Bhajan：不，不，第七个身体。
Student: Aura
学生：Aura
YB: Aura! Aura is the existence of the mind, mind is controlled by the brain, it is by Shashara. Then you come to the next, which body is that?
Yogi Bhajan：Aura！Aura 是心智的存在，心智由大脑控制，它由 Shashara 控制。然后你来到下一个，那是哪个身体？
Student: Eighth, pranic
学生：第八个，普拉纳体
YB: Pranic body. Pranic body is incoming impulse of the God. That is with breath. That is this area. Nostril, mouth, it's called face.
Yogi Bhajan：普拉纳体。普拉纳体是神进来的冲动。它和呼吸在一起。就是这块区域。鼻孔、嘴，它叫脸。
Student: What about the diaphragm?
学生：那横膈膜呢？
YB: Diaphragm is down there, Udhyanbandh but this is the entry. And it is with the Jalandharbandh; it's the fifth chakra. Go to next.
Yogi Bhajan：横膈膜在下面，Udhyanbandh，但这里是入口。它和 Jalandharbandh 在一起；它是第五个脉轮。说下一个。
Student: Subtle body
学生：精微体
YB: Subtle body is the combination of all the molecules. You have thirty trillion molecules, which subtle body holds and drops and takes the soul and goes. So that is on the sound system. Sound is in three chakras, navel, diaphragm and throat. Then comes what?
Yogi Bhajan：精微体是所有分子的组合。你有30万亿个分子，精微体承载它们、放下它们，带着灵魂离去。所以那是在声音系统上。声音在三个脉轮里，丹田、横隔膜和喉轮。然后是什么？
Student: Radiant body
学生：光芒体
YB: Radiant body is your shield. Right? That's a mental projection. That's on the sixth chakra.
Yogi Bhajan：光芒体是你的盾牌。对吧？那是心智的投射。那是在第六个脉轮上。
Student: I wondered if they were connected.
学生：我想知道它们是不是相连的。
YB: But this is how they are connected. You cannot just go one, two, three and one, two, three. Next question.
Yogi Bhajan：但它们就是这样相连的。你不能只是一、二、三和一、二、三这样走。下一个问题。
Student: These books that talk about the chakras in a little bit of a different way than we do, do we need to talk about these differences? And clarify them?
学生：这些书谈论脉轮的方式和我们有点不同，我们需要谈论这些差异吗？并澄清它们？
YB: They talk out of fantasy. We talk of reality. So we want to keep it. So whatever they say in their definition you give that practical answer.
Yogi Bhajan：他们谈论的是幻想。我们谈论的是实相。所以我们想保持它。所以不管他们在他们的定义里说什么，你给出那个实际的答案。
Student: (---)
学生：（---）
YB: What they say generally, say it so that people may not say, 'oh this is totally different.' Just say it what they say and then just tell them reality is and then say your thing.
Yogi Bhajan：他们一般说什么，就那样说，这样人们就不会说，「哦，这完全不同。」就照他们说的说，然后告诉他们实相是什么，然后说你的东西。
Student: .... The diaphragm is almost considered the third chakra, solar plexus, in some of these books. So how, for example, would I word that?
学生：……横隔膜在有些书里几乎被认为是第三个脉轮，太阳神经丛。所以，举个例子，我要怎么措辞？
YB: No, it is the navel point with the center of the purity of the soul through which your development happens. Diaphragm solar plexus all these areas are in this area. They are talking of the glands actually, organs, it's called Granthi. Granthi means total organs in one place. That's all.
Yogi Bhajan：不，是丹田，带着灵魂纯净的中心，你的发展通过它发生。横隔膜、太阳神经丛，所有这些区域都在这个区域里。他们实际上谈的是腺体、器官，它叫Granthi。Granthi的意思是在一个地方的总体器官。仅此而已。
Student: We need to check some of the meditations that I have collected so far. We want to the the ones that you gave in the chakra series, so I just wanted your own opinion on that.
学生：我们需要检查一些我迄今为止收集的禅定。我们想要你在脉轮系列里给出的那些，所以我只是想听听你自己的意见。
YB: Okay, it's okay if I give them it's okay and then add these Kriya, Sudarshan Chakra Kriya, Trishoola, Sa Ta Na Ma, and there is a one more... Yeah, they are just already... You can get it from commander, what's his...
Yogi Bhajan：好，如果我给出它们，没问题，然后加上这些奎亚，Sudarshan Chakra Kriya、Trishoola、Sa Ta Na Ma，还有一个……是的，它们已经……你可以从指挥官那里拿到，他叫什么……
Student: Guru tej
学生：Guru Tej
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YB: Talking about chakra and opening up of chakra is two things. Next?
Yogi Bhajan：谈论脉轮和打开脉轮是两回事。下一个？
Student: What about some heavy yoga sets for the chakras?
学生：那一些针对脉轮的高强度瑜伽套式呢？
YB: Yeah there are lot of good sets, you can include as good as you can.
Yogi Bhajan：是的，有很多好的套式，你可以尽可能加入好的。
Student: Do you want to be approving that?
学生：你想批准那个吗？
YB: No, just wanted to get it done. She can take care of it. Okay next.
Yogi Bhajan：不，只是想把它完成。她可以处理它。好，下一个。
Student: Can you talk about the circumvent force a little more?
学生：你能再谈谈环绕的力量吗？
YB: Circumvent force, which protects the body, whenever a psyche interlocks, look at as a people as magnetic psyche, a living vibrant star. That's how it is. If you have that eye, that's how you will look. In between the contract there is circumvent force, which overall keeps the orbit of every star out of clash normally. It is called the living impulse.
Yogi Bhajan：当心识彼此扣合时，那环绕的力量保护着身体——把它看成一种磁性心识，一颗活着、跳动的星辰。就是这样。你要是有了那只眼睛，你看出去就是这样。在彼此的交合之间，有环绕的力量，它总体上让每一颗星辰的轨道互不冲撞。它被称作活的冲动。
Student: And that´s what it does for the human?
学生：那它对人类就是这样起作用的吗？
YB: In other words...
Yogi Bhajan：换句话说……
Student: Is that into praanic?
学生：它进入普拉纳吗？
YB: No, it is the sixth sense. Next?
Yogi Bhajan：不，它是第六感。下一个？
Student: How about the eleventh body, the embodiment when they're all working.
学生：那第十一个身体呢，当它们全都运作起来时的那个体现？
YB: That is called the basic impulse; it is like a yin and yang. It's blue and white. It's like a impulse, you have seen the barber shop? Old barber shop? Outside that red and white moves? You understand? Yeah, it is blue and white moves. That is what God is all about.
Yogi Bhajan：那叫基本冲动；它就像阴和阳。它是蓝的和白的。它像一种冲动，你见过理发店吧？老式理发店？外面那个红白旋转的东西？你懂吗？对，它就是蓝白旋转的。神就是那样。
Bibiji: Okay, then in the format I have done in the way I want to do it, all the chakras and diet and set and meditation and pose and all that stuff, then I wanted to do one section of aura and the colors and how to read it and then the other one we thought we can do is the sixth chakra and the sets, how we can relate to sex and their problems and their remedies.
Bibiji：好，那么按我做的那个格式、按我想要的方式做，所有脉轮、饮食、奎亚、禅定、体式等等那些，然后我想做一节讲能量圈和颜色以及怎么解读它，另外我们觉得可以做的一节就是第六个脉轮和那些奎亚，我们怎么把它和性、和那些问题以及它们的疗法联系起来。
YB: There is already lot of... everything is written.
Yogi Bhajan：已经有一大堆……全都写下来了。
Student: So we just write about the sixth center in great detail, you did a whole lot on that.
学生：那我们就非常详细地写第六个中心，你在那上面讲过一大堆。
YB: Good, that's what all it is.
Yogi Bhajan：好，就是这么回事。
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